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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: DAVE WAITE on Tuesday 10 January 12 11:15 GMT (UK)
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hello all my name is david waite i live in north east england i was born in dewsburyi am looking for any information on a edward waite born yorkshire 1822 ( i think in dewsbury) who had a son george waite born halifax 1846 i have found them both on the 1861 census where they were in birmingham. edward was a wire weaver and george was a umberella manafacturer but i am struggling to find edwards birth any help advice info greatly appreciated
dave
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Hi Dave,
FreeBMD has this birth registration:
March Quarter 1846 Halifax Registration District George Waite. You could send for the birth certificate to find out the names of his parents.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
The Family Search website http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jkh/
has a baptism for an Edward Alfred Waites on 24 Aug 1823 in Liversedge, West Yorkshire (about 4 miles up the road from Dewsbury), son of Sarah Waites. As there is no father's name mentioned, it is likely that Edward was illegitimate.
Hope that's some help.
Jill
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March Quarter 1846 Halifax Registration District George Waite. You could send for the birth certificate to find out the names of his parents.
From Davids other post, http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jk4/
we believe the parents are
Marriage December qtr 1844
VINEY Eliza
WAITE Edward
Kidderminster 18 49
The details for Edward in 1851 are
Mill Bridge, Liversedge H0107/2323 folio469 page 13
Edward Waite married age 28 Carpet Weaver bn Dewsbury, Yorkshire
Eliza Waite age 30 bn Kidderminster, Worcestershire
William son age 10 Worsted Bobbin Winder bn Kidderminster
George son age 5 bn Halifax
Mary dtr age 3 bn Dewsbury
Edward son 10 months bn Hesmon(don?) Yorkshire
John Robinson lodger unmarried 22 Carpet Weaver bn Dewsbury
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right i think i am going to have to start from scratch again ?? ???
i have my fathers birth certificate he was born
16th july 1922 in dewsbury
on his birth certificate it gives father as
george waite
mother as florence may waite formerly watson
at that time they were living at 11 pit street dewsbury
i know my father was the youngest of 3 children he had a sister and a brother
matthew watson waite 27/8/1920 born castle ward northumberland
florence may waite born 1/5/1919 born castle ward northumberland
i have a marriage of george waite and a florence m waite in castle ward in 1919 and as my aunt may (flornece may was born 1919 we always called her may )was born in 1919 i assume it was a marriage because my granmother was pregnant
i have a death for my grandmother for the jan feb mar quarter in 1967 giving her age as 68
i have searched the birth records and can find a florence m watson born in 1896 in castle ward northumberland but that would make the age wrong as i know my gran died in dewsbury when i was 11
i also have a florence m watson born apr may jun quarter 1899
i have to be honest i have been looking at the one born castle ward but now i am doubting this as the year looks wrong
there are a number of george waite,s born in yorkshire around ci 1900 but i do not know my granfathers age or place of birth
any help or advice appreciated
dave
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Hi Dave
Do you have a copy of the marriage between George Waite and Florence May Watson, if not that is probably the way to go. You should then have confirmation of their fathers which would hopefully help us find them on census.
Rosie
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having back tracked through my searches i now think i got it wrong at the marriage of william henry waitei think he married a mary elizabeth noble their first child was eliza and then came george,
not as easy as ithought doh :'(
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How do you know that George who married Florence Watson had a father William Henry ;)
I can see a death for a George Waite in 1949, Dewsbury reg district is this your George - his estimated year of birth is 1890.
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i have traced george on the 1901 census in dewsbury it gives his father as william hebry mother mary elizabeth and sister eliza all born in the dewsbry area ( liversedge and heckmondwike)
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my george was born 1895 in liversedge and died in spen valley which was a suburb of dewsbury at that time (it incorporated hekmondwike gomersall and liversedge where he was born
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In 1891 William is at RG12/3726 f41 p38 age 22 bn Heckmondwike - wife Mary E age 20 bn Liversedge and dtr Eliza 5 mths also bn Livrsedge.
This could be him in 1881 :-\ :-\
Soloman Smith age 60 bn Leeds
Sarah Wife age 55 bn Leeds
Fred Gill Son age 18 bn Dewsburymoor, York
William H. Whaite Grandson age 13 bn Heckmondwike
Ben Lister Grandson age 11 bn Heckmondwike
George Littlewood Lodger age 25 bn Heckmondwike
Sam Mountain Lodger age 25 bn Wakefield, Yorkshire
living Tanhouse, Heckmondwike.
RG11/4553 f140 p 37
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Possible Marriage September qtr 1867
Maria Gill
George Waite
Dewsbury 9b 739
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1871 living Heckmondwike RG10/4591 f58 p16
George Waite age 25 bn Halifax
Maria age 23 bn Leeds
William Hy age 3 bn Heckmondwike
Does this agree with what you have so far. ;)
Rosie
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i am 99 % certain that the info from the 1891 census is correct with one daughter eliza then the 1901 census shows william henry, mary elizabeth, eliza , george bn 1895 and i think the marriage of maria gill and george is also correct
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31st August 1867, Parish Church, Birstal
George Waite age 21 bachelor Carpet Weaver resident Heckmondwick father Edward Waite occ Carpet Weaver
Maria Gill age 19 spinster resident Liversedge father William Gill occ Joiner
married after banns
George Waite (x) his mark
Maria Gill (x) her mark
witnesses Edward Waite (signed his name) and William Rothesy (x) his mark
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i have located
george age 25
maria age 23
william henry age 3 on the 1871 census and am convinced that is now correct
i then have checked for william henry,s marriage
and i think this correct
william henry waite married
mary elizabeth noble
in the oct nov dec quarter 1889 in dewsbury
they had a daughter called eliza in 1891
then
george waite born 1895
who was my grandad ( who i never met because he died before i was born )
then came my father
kenneth waite born 1922
and then me david waite born 1956 :)
so i think im getting there :D
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having gone through the deaths of mary elizabeth waite the only match for the age is a mary elizabeth waite died 1903 age 31 so was born 1872 which matches
i then have a william henry getting re married in 1908 to a
ann elizabeth murgatroyd
and the 1911 cesus gives
william henry waite age 41 born heckmondwike
ann elizabeth waite 37 married 2 years
george waite son age 16
sarah murgatroyd age 64 mother in law
so this is starting to fit together nicely :o i hope
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so this is starting to fit together nicely :o i hope
Brilliant :)
It looks as though your next step will have to be Edward and Eliza Viney's marriage to see what it says about Edwards father or lack of one.
Rosie
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edward waite born 1822 yorkshire on the 1861 census
wife eliza waite born 1821 warwickshire
son george waite born 1846 halifax yorkshire
mary daughter born 1848 dewsbury yorkshire
edward son born 1850 dewsbury yorkshire
eliza daughter born 1857 northamptonshire
john thomas son born 1860 durham
plus 3 members of the bull family as lodgers
then the 1871 census gives
edward waite born 1821 yorkshire
harriet waite wife born 1837 born warwickshire ( where has eliza gone i cant find a death)
eliza daughter born 1857 northamptonshire
james son born 1869 yorkshire
so where have the rest gone to edward mary george and john thomas
help please ::)
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Hi Dave
George is with wife Maria and son Wm Hy living Heckmonwick in 1871 RG10/4591 f58 p16
I can't see the others in 1871 though. ::)
Rosie
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Try RG10/4962/135/51 for an incorrectly transcribed Edward Waite - born 1850, Carpet Weaver from Heckmondwike.
GF
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In 1867, a Mary Waite married a William Rothery in the Dewsbury area. That couple appear on the 1871 census at reference RG10/4593/14/21. She is the right age with the right birthplace. Might be worth further investigation. William Rothery might have been the witness at George Waite's wedding in 1867.
GF
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John Thomas Waite born 1860 does not seem to appear on any census after 1861. On that census the family were living in Birmingham. There is a death registered in Birmingham in 1861 (Q3) 6d 54, for a John Thomas Waite which might be him.
GF
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I think it is possible that Edward’s wife, Eliza, died in 1864 (Q2) in Birmingham 6d 90 and that he then married Harriet Nix in 1864 (Q4) in Aston 6d 396.
GF
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Referring back to the marriage of Mary Waite, here are the details taken from "West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1922" ....
26th October 1867 at St Peter, Birstall, William Rothery, aged 21, Bachelor, Carpet Weaver married Mary Waite, aged 19, Spinster. Their respective fathers were Thomas Rothery, Shoemaker and Edward Waite, Carpet Weaver.
GF
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ty glen i think you may be right with harriet nix
:D
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right i have recieved edward and eliza's marriage certificate and it gives edward's father as william waite the marriage took place on the 21st of october 1844 so edward would be approx 22 as he was born in 1822.
i have tried to find edward on a census search on FindMyPast but dont seem to be able to locate him i have also searched for a birth of william waite in and around the dewsbury area where edward was born and i am drawing a blank there as well.
any help appreciated :'(
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The details for Edward in 1851 are
Mill Bridge, Liversedge H0107/2323 folio469 page 13
Edward Waite married age 28 Carpet Weaver bn Dewsbury, Yorkshire
Eliza Waite age 30 bn Kidderminster, Worcestershire
William son age 10 Worsted Bobbin Winder bn Kidderminster
George son age 5 bn Halifax
Mary dtr age 3 bn Dewsbury
Edward son 10 months bn Hesmon(don?) Yorkshire
John Robinson lodger unmarried 22 Carpet Weaver bn Dewsbury
Does it give an occupation for his father William :)
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yes it gives william as a weaver
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Hi dave, I'm your auntie mays grand daughter and hopefully I might be able to help in some way. I was really close to her. I'm carol and russell's daughter. :)
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Thanks dave for getting back to me, it's good to know there are Waite's still out n about! ;D
I have spoken to mum and she's not sure but there must be some way of finding out when they came back to Yorkshire, I will dig around! We also have a lot of black and White pics who no one knows who they are, they came from my grans after she past away! Maybe they can be some use to you? It's such a shame I never asked gran whilst she was still here, this would've been Soooo much easier!!! Have you managed to piece together the family tree?? I was reading your last posts and it seems like your just about there with it! I would have seen you at grans funeral as I was there, I also had to go to Leeds st james's with gran to visit uncle kenn (that's what I called him cos everyone else did lol) when he was Ill in hospital, me n gran got lost round Leeds looking for the hospital and spent hours trying to get there, bless her, she was so upset and frustrated that day. For some reason it won't allow me to send you a message? I'm just getting to grips with this so you will have to bare with me. Anyway I will keep in touch and if I find anything out I will let you know xx
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Once you have 3 posts to your name, the personal message system can be used. 8)
Brian
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Hi David
I am not sure if we are related, my grandad was a Matthew Watson Waite, I never met him sadly but am trying to find my family! My grandma Harriet Anne passed away a couple of years ago and didn't want to disrespect her but now I think it's the right time! You could be my fathers half brother! My grandad had an affair with my grandma sister and it split the whole family, I only know Molly and a Mary and think Wilfred passed away sometime just before my gran I know there was 8 Jessops! I know my grandfather Matthew played Rugby and was a miner, plus my father talks of him working for Hargreaves and chadwicks! The names you mention sound familiar does Broderick or O'Toole mean anything to you or a Mae Waite? Look forward to hearing from you!
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Any waite that are from Dewsbury related? My father was from Ravensthorpe he talks about his grandmother having a large house with red table cloth! My father is 72 this year and want to surprise him with what I know he left home at 15 because of family upset!
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I have an Aunty Jean and Rita my father is John!
I know they had an uncle Ronald!
My grandma re married Arthur Howard after splitting with my real grandfather Matthew Watson Waite!
I would love to hear from you if you are related!
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Dave
Looking at your initial post you could be my fathers cousin? If your father was Matthew Watson Waite brother!
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Hi David
I am not sure if we are related, my grandad was a Matthew Watson Waite, I never met him sadly but am trying to find my family! My grandma Harriet Anne passed away a couple of years ago and didn't want to disrespect her but now I think it's the right time! You could be my fathers half brother! My grandad had an affair with my grandma sister and it split the whole family, I only know Molly and a Mary and think Wilfred passed away sometime just before my gran I know there was 8 Jessops! I know my grandfather Matthew played Rugby and was a miner, plus my father talks of him working for Hargreaves and chadwicks! The names you mention sound familiar does Broderick or O'Toole mean anything to you or a Mae Waite? Look forward to hearing from you!