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Title: peter brown
Post by: mjac on Monday 09 January 12 10:36 GMT (UK)
i am looking for peter brown born about 1816 orkney  he married betsy meil and had 3 children  he is on the 1841 census for stronsay but canot find him after that  have found his childrens marriages but where did he come from etc his children were elizabeth ,james and francis (fanny) so any info would be good  and he lives at arraquoy st nicholas stronsay on 1841 census
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: peedielass on Monday 09 January 12 12:18 GMT (UK)
His wife Betsy is at Roadside, Stronsay in the 1851 census and is listed as a widow.  She was born in Sanday.
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 09 January 12 12:49 GMT (UK)
I have found the birth of Elizabeth Meil in Stronsay for you.

9/5/1814
Elizabeth  the lawful daughter of Daniel Meil and Margaret Angus, Stronsay, Orkney. She was born on the 10th April and baptised on the 9th May 1814 by the Rev Andrew Dishington before several witnesses.

OPR Births 031/00/0010/0160.

There does not appear to be a Peter Brown born in Orkney around 1816 although I looked from 1812.  I will have another look after lunch for you.
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: mjac on Monday 09 January 12 13:05 GMT (UK)
thank you for your help i found death cert for betsy in kirkwall 1888 it says widow of peter brown  and gives her parents as  edward meil and betsy peace  but canot find them on scotlands people
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: Seoras on Monday 09 January 12 13:15 GMT (UK)
Hi mjac,he died at Stronsay 1846 aged about 32,last entry.
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 09 January 12 13:25 GMT (UK)
I have just seen your message regarding Elizabeth Meil.

There was only one find for Elizabeth in Orkneys for the time period, and I have given the details to you.

Are you using www.scotlandspeople.gov. uk ?  It costs £7 for 30 credits and you can view the index for 1 credit and 5 to see the actual parish record.

The death cert. info. is only as good as the person giving the info at death.  I even got my father's place of birth wrong !!!

Only you can decide whether something is right or not.  I have found some Peter Brown baptisms but will await your instructions.  For Peter , I started at 1800 and found 3 in Orkneys
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 09 January 12 13:29 GMT (UK)
Sorry , I should have added that I searched from 1800 -1822.

3 found. 1806, 1811, 1812.

Lunch time !!!!  Back soon
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: mjac on Monday 09 January 12 13:34 GMT (UK)
thank you for all your help  im quite amazed how fast you have found info for me  will keep me going for a wee while
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: mjac on Monday 09 January 12 13:36 GMT (UK)
on 1841 census in stronsay  peter brown was born in orkney but i dont know where so that will be my next wall to knock down
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 09 January 12 14:34 GMT (UK)
Not a large island !!!!

I will give you the following births for Peter Brown that were registered.  You have not told me yet whether you are using the website for scotlandspeople.
29/11/1806
Peter son of Samuel Brown and Ann Melvin . Stromness, Orkney.  This might be a bit early !!

11/02/1811
Peter son on John Brown/Stewart  . Hoy and Graensay. Orkney. No christian name given on index for mother

01/06/1812
Peter son of William Brown and Margaret Byas. Stromness. Orkney. 

Those were the only Orkney births between 1800 and 1822.  There are others for the mainland but that will be for you to search.
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: mjac on Monday 09 January 12 14:43 GMT (UK)
thank you you have been most helpfull give me something to keep me busy tonight
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 09 January 12 14:55 GMT (UK)
mjac,

I am a little confused !!!  Could be old age  ;D

In the 1841 Census that Peter Brown is living with Margaret, and children Margaret 3, and Jean 1.

How come we are looking for Betsy?  That is short for Elizabeth.  Unless someone knows different.
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: mjac on Monday 09 January 12 15:12 GMT (UK)
this is census for stronsay 1841  arraquoy st nicholas 1 peter brown m 25 agricultural labourer born orkney betsy brown f 25  3 betsy brown f 7 james brown  m 3 fanny brown f1  hope this is of some help
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 09 January 12 15:41 GMT (UK)
As far as I can see, we have 2 Peter Brown 's of the same age on Orkney in 1841.

That is why I was getting muddled !!!!!

The other is a boat builder.

I think that you need to find yourself some credits for www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to sort this out for yourself.

There was only one Elizabeth Meil birth on Orkney and I have already given that one to you.

Good luck in your quest !!!!  Shout if you need more help  ;D
Title: Re: peter brown
Post by: akc on Monday 09 January 12 18:58 GMT (UK)
on the 1851 census betsy ( widow ) aged 39 is born sanday

on the 1861, 1871, 1881 she is in kirkwall