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Title: frances miriam paisley
Post by: pressman 1 on Sunday 08 January 12 20:09 GMT (UK)
 she was born walwoth london about 1879
married about aged 19 at the strand in 1898 to frederick william cook

trying to trace her birth address and parents details

atb neil
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 08 January 12 20:37 GMT (UK)
the only paisley christening in southwark is with parents charles/harriett and that is a john paisley bapt 1877
charles and harriett have a 15 year old daughter fanny with them in 1891 could this possibly be your francis
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 08 January 12 20:48 GMT (UK)
the only paisley christening in southwark is with parents charles/harriett and that is a john paisley bapt 1877
charles and harriett have a 15 year old daughter fanny with them in 1891 could this possibly be your francis
cannot find a christening for fanny though and the surname seems to be transcribed as parsley in 1891
plus they have an 8 yr old son named john with them in 1891 so unless the son baptised 1877 had died this could be 2 different families
will have a closer look and see what i can find out
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 08 January 12 20:55 GMT (UK)
think this may be her
1881
RG11/523/118/56
charles parsley age 39. b. newington,surrey. occ. hawker. head
harriett age 38. b. ditto. wife
harriett age 18. b. ditto. daughter
alice age 14. b. ditto. daughter
mary ann age 12. b. ditto. daughter
amelia age 6. b. ditto. daughter
fanny age 2. b. ditto. daughter
charles age 5mnths. b. ditto. son
living at; 3,surrey buildings,southwark st.george the martyr
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 08 January 12 20:59 GMT (UK)
baptism
fanny parsley daughter of charles/harriet parsley was baptised on the 6th july 1879 at st marks church,walworth,southwark
address at time of baptism;3,surrey buildings
fathers occ; general dealer
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 08 January 12 21:00 GMT (UK)
if you think this is her and would like me to try and trace the parents backwards i will do so
have to be tomorrow though as i am off to work soon
mick
Title: help
Post by: pressman 1 on Sunday 08 January 12 21:31 GMT (UK)
yes please many thanks
neil
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 08 January 12 23:29 GMT (UK)
Where did you get her full name?

The family Wozzle has found are constantly ' Parsley ', not Paisley.

Jennifer
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 09 January 12 14:02 GMT (UK)
She's recorded in the marriage index as Paisley, but if the handwriting in the register is slightly iffy, the quarterly return to the GRO could be wrong.

Unfortunately Westminster registration district marriages aren't online so you'll need to get the marriage cert to confirm. They are several churches within the registration district as well as the register office itself so it will be hard to determine where the marriage took place. If you did know, you could ask the City of Westminster Archives to check the church (they don't have access to register office marriage) but they do need an exact date and place.

Dawn

Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: pressman 1 on Monday 09 January 12 16:30 GMT (UK)
she is my greatgrandmother in my birth book small family tree she is there as frances miraim ?
now my great grandfather frederick willaim cook was an achoholic died before my mother was born in 1933
it has been said she did not allways live with him he died in a hospital in fulham palace road which the new charing hospital is built on any more help would be helpful
frances was married in the strand in 1898 her birth was in walworth
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 09 January 12 19:02 GMT (UK)
1901 census 204 Lillie Road Fulham

Frederick W Cook 24 Omnibus Conductor born Watton Wayland Norfolk
Frances M Cook 22 Walworth
Violet Beatrice Cook 9 months born Fulham

Jennifer
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 09 January 12 19:18 GMT (UK)
St.John Walham Green Fulham
Violet Beatrice Cook born 24/6/1900 bapt. 22/8/1900 Frederick William & Frances Miriam 204 Lillie Road Fulham Omnibus Conductor

St.Peter Fulham
George Frederick Cook born 20/9/1902 bapt. 18/10/1902 64 Marville Road all other same

St.Andrew West Kensington
Leonard Charles  born 15/10/1905 bapt. 23/12/1905 75 May Street all other same.

Jennifer
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: pressman 1 on Monday 09 January 12 19:21 GMT (UK)
any more help tracing her family woul be great

neil
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 10 January 12 00:08 GMT (UK)
1871

RG10 Piece: 620 Folio: 123  Page Number: 19
Nursery Row, Stoke Newington
 
Rose Evans, Head, Widow, 53, Hawker, Chester
Harriett Parsley, Dau. Mar, 27, Hawker, Surrey
James Parsley, Son, 9
Harriett Parsley, Dau, 8
Rose Parsley, Dau, 6
Alice Parsley, Dau, 4
Mary Ann Parsley, Dau, 2
Melly Parsley, Dau, 9 Months
 
1891

RG12 Piece: 368, Folio:79, Page:25
31, Coxons Place, Horsleydown, Southwark

Parsley, Charles, Head, Married, 50,General Dealer, Southwark
Parsley, Harriett, Wife, Married, 47, Southwark
Parsley, Fanny, Daughter, Single,15, Southwark
Parsley, Charles, Son, Single,10, Walworth
Parsley, John, Son, Single, 8, Walworth
Parsley, Lizzie, Daughter, Single, 6, Walworth
Parsley, Jennie, Daughter, 3, Walworth

1901
RG13 Piece: 412 Folio: 31 Page: 6
60, White Hart Street, Lambeth

Parsley, Charles,Head, Married, 60,General Dealer (Wardrobe), London
Parsley, Harriett,Wife, Married, 58, London
Parsley, James,Son, Single, 39, Hawker, London
Parsley, John,Son, Single, 19, London
Parsley, Elizabeth,Daughter, Single,16, London
Parsley, Jane,Daughter, Single,13, London

Birth (freebmd)
Fanny Parsley Sept ¼ 1879, St. Saviour,1d,31

Marriage
1 October 1863

St Philip, Bethnal Green

Charles Parsley, 22, Bachelor, Hawker, of 9 Poplar Row, Father William Parsley - Hawker

Harriet Evans, 18, Spinster, of Poplar Row, Father James Evans – General Dealer

After Banns, both signed with a mark, X

Witnesses: Ebenezar Anderson, William Sar?
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 10 January 12 01:01 GMT (UK)
Baptisms

Parents Charles & Harriet(t) Parsley

William James Parsley 6 Apr 1862
St Mary Newington

Harriet Mary Ann Parsley 22 Nov 1863
St Mary Newington 

Rose Alice Parsley 13 Aug 1865
St Peter Walworth 

Alice Susan Parsley 28 Apr 1867
St Peter Walworth 

Mary Ann Parsley 25 Apr 1869
St Mary Newington 

Amelia Anne Parsley 24 Jul 1870
St Peter Walworth 

Amelia Parsley 1 Aug 1875
St Mary Newington 

Fanny Parsley 6 Jul 1879
St Mark Walworth 

Charles Daniel Parsley 20 Mar 1881
St Peter Walworth 

John Henry Parsley 1 Oct 1882
St Peter Walworth 

Elizabeth Parsley 7 Dec 1884
St Peter Walworth 

Jane Parsley 13 Nov 1887
Mile End Old Town St Peter Tower Hamlets 
Title: Re: frances miriam paisley
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 10 January 12 01:04 GMT (UK)
Possible infant birts and deaths

Births Jun 1862   
Parsley  James Williams    Newington  1d 201   

Births Dec 1863   
Parsley  Harriet Mary Anne     Newington  1d 230   

Deaths Jun 1864   
Parsley  Eliza     Newington  1d 140   

Births Sep 1865   
Parsley  Rose Ellis     Newington  1d 221   

Births Mar 1866   
Parsley  Alfred A W     Newington  1d 202   

Deaths Mar 1872   
Parsley  Amelia  1  St.Saviour  1d 79   

Births Sep 1873   
Parsley  Charles     St. Saviour  1d 37   

Deaths Sep 1873   
Parsley  Charles  0  St.Saviour  1d 28   

Births Sep 1875   
Parsley  Amelia     St. Saviour  1d 36   

Births Sep 1877   
Parsley  Charles     St. Saviour  1d 39   

Deaths Sep 1878   
Parsley  Charles  0  St. Saviour  1d 21   

Births Sep 1879   
Parsley  Fanny     St. Saviour  1d 31   

Births Jun 1881   
Parsley  Charles Daniel     St. Saviour  1d 29   

Births Dec 1882   
Parsley  Charles Henry     St. Saviour  1d 118   

Births Dec 1884   
Parsley  Elizabeth     St. Saviour  1d 168   

Births Dec 1887   
Parsley  Jane     St. Saviour  1d 139