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Title: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Sunday 08 January 12 20:56 GMT (UK)
Can any one tell me if there is a list for Metropolitan Transit Commissioner Officer for New South Wales, between 1830 to 1860

I have look at the state records, State library and did not find anything.



Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: cando on Sunday 08 January 12 21:52 GMT (UK)
A snippet in the SMH indicates the Public Vehicles Regulation Act came into force 1 Apr 1873.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jh7/

Perhaps you would like to give a little more information about your request.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Sunday 08 January 12 22:21 GMT (UK)
So sorry, the only other information is that a William Lockwood was a Metropolitan Transit Commissioner Officer for New South Wales
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: cando on Sunday 08 January 12 22:54 GMT (UK)
It would appear from a previous thread that John LOCKWOOD was born Poplar 1810 and died NSW 1880.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,568504.0.html

What was the source of your information about his occupation ...eg a marriage certificate, death certificate etc?

From State Records....the path will not link...

The Criminal Investigation Branch (CIB) was formed in 1879. The Inspector General was a member of the Metropolitan Transit Commissioners who were operational from 1 April, 1873 until 29 August, 1900. All of the powers of the Metropolitan Transit Commissioners were transferred to the Inspector General of Police following the closure of the former agency. This included making by-laws regulating the mode, licensing and controlling of public vehicles (such as omnibuses and hackney carriages), their drivers and conductors.


Your dates are well before the dates the Commission was in existence.

Cheers  :)
Cando
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Saturday 14 January 12 08:16 GMT (UK)
Sorry that I have only got back to now.

It was on his will and death cert, as Metropolitan Transit Commissioners and Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer.

Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 02:32 GMT (UK)
"Metropolitan" would be a smaller area than is now considered as Sydney. 

And in the period 1830 - 1860, it would be confined to Sydney Town.   I have had a good look through my records, notes, books, etc and simply put, I have not found any mention of Metropolitan Transit Commissioners operating in that era.   As Cando has noted, yes, they were around in the 1870s, but NOT EARLIER, sorry.

I can see a William LOCKWOOD at 6 Helena terrace, Pyrmont in the 1873 Sands Directory.   

Perhaps he was associated with TRAMS.   ???  ???  ??? Of course that is Speculations on my part

Cheers,  JM   
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 02:39 GMT (UK)
From the 1877 Sands Alphabetical Directory

METROPOLITIAN TRANSIT COMMISSIONERS, office of, 164 Philip St (Sydney)


From the 1885 Sands

Metropolitian Transit Commissioners,  97 Philip St
Registrar .... W J Merriman
Inspector ... E Oram

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Sunday 15 January 12 02:49 GMT (UK)
Jm.

Thanks for your help.

It is a mystery, what william did, but will h ave to consider that he worked up until he died in 1880. he could have been with the trams. who knows have nmot found any thing else out

Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 02:55 GMT (UK)
Sorry that I have only got back to now.

It was on his will and death cert, as Metropolitan Transit Commissioners and Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer.



Some more thoughts ...

What was his usual residence please? 

Did his estate require Probating, and have you accessed any Probate Packet held at the NSW SRO ?

Did he marry, and what occupation was given on the marriage certificate?   What occupation was given on the b.c. for any of his children ?

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 03:36 GMT (UK)
Is this your chap?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13484995 SMH 4 Dec 1880, giving d o d 26 Nov 1880, at his son's residence, 18 Buckingham St ?

NSW SRO Deceased Estates Index shows probate granted 7 Feb 1881. 

I have not found your William Lockwood listed on the several indexes of the NSW Civil Establishment that I hold.  I carefully checked the one for 1877. 

I understand the full lists are held by the NSW SRO, and/or NSW SL but they could well be held by the NSW Parliament, as part of the Votes and Proceedings of Parliament, committing funds for the various institutions of government. 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Sunday 15 January 12 04:02 GMT (UK)
Jm

yes to trove
Yes to the grant and have the will from the state records.
Yes to marriage and have to look when i get home to see what he dose for a living on it.

I am just starting to get the b.c for the childern.

it so interesting that one path leads you to any other. Just want to know about   Metropolitan Transit Commissioners
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 04:21 GMT (UK)
SMH at Trove has lots on the Commission

Cheers JM

Jm

yes to trove
Yes to the grant and have the will from the state records.
Yes to marriage and have to look when i get home to see what he dose for a living on it.

I am just starting to get the b.c for the childern.

it so interesting that one path leads you to any other. Just want to know about   Metropolitan Transit Commissioners
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Sunday 15 January 12 04:34 GMT (UK)
thanks for your help jm

still going to keep looking for any info on William being Metroplolitan comissioners
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 05:20 GMT (UK)
Pleased to help  ;)

Don't overlook that your William Lockwood was aged about 63 when the Metropolitan Transit Commission was established under the chairmanship of James Merriman in 1873.   

Cheers, JM
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: majm on Sunday 15 January 12 05:43 GMT (UK)
http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Table_of_cab_fares_schedule_J_between_fi.html?id=RHr0ZwEACAAJ&redir_esc=y 
This should be a link to a 29 page book published in 1897 by the New South Wales Metropolitan Transit Commission
Title: Re: Metropolitan Transit Comissioners Officer
Post by: krismaree on Sunday 15 January 12 08:15 GMT (UK)
very interesting and thanks for all your help