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Title: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: olliebeak on Saturday 07 January 12 10:51 GMT (UK)
Does anybody on here have access to these records and also have the time to help me, please?

Marriage of John THOMPSON to Prunella SOUTHWORTH - December 1835.  I would be grateful for clarification of witnesses names etc.

Possible marriage of Thomas (poss Thos) THOMPSON to Isabella ??? around 1835 to 1837.

Thank you.
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 07 January 12 11:01 GMT (UK)
Hiya Olliebeak and welcome to Rootschat :)
John Thompson to Prunella Southworth 25th dec 1835 at St Johns 
John a Bachelor
Prunella a Spinster
neither signed , made an X
witness - Turner Thompson and Ann Nichols
married by Thomas Clarke

go to
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

allan
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 07 January 12 11:16 GMT (UK)
The only marriage I can find is

www.familysearch.org - go to previous site - search - advanced search

7th june 1834
Thomas Thompson to Isabella Liverick at Alston , Cumbria
Extracted record
Alston Hall is 4 miles from Preston...so I can only presume that although in Cumbria - Alston is close to Preston,Lancashire.....maybe someone with more knowledge of the area could give some advice...
allan :)
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 07 January 12 13:18 GMT (UK)
Alston Cumberland is miles away from Preston right up on the Pennines. It's the highest market town in England.

The 1861 census records Prunella Thompson as born about 1816 in Preston and John born about 1814 also in Preston.

Gibel
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 07 January 12 14:06 GMT (UK)
Isabella Thompson,widow

admin with will of Isabella Thompson,late of Wellgill in the parish of Alston,in the parish of Cumberland ,
who died 5th of September 1882 at Wellgate was granted at Carlisle to John Armstrong of West Nenthead near Alston,in the said county yeoman and George Thompson,of  Nenthead near Alston lead miner the grandson the residuary legatees in trust,
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 07 January 12 14:11 GMT (UK)
1841 census Alston,
HO107/171/8
Thomas Thompson born Scotland aged 30 ,lead miner,
Isabella aged 25 ,born in county
Matthew,5
Ann,3
Thomas,2mths
all born Cumberland
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Saturday 07 January 12 16:04 GMT (UK)
Turner Thompson,witness to marriage,

Turner Thompson Thompson son of James Thompson and Mary
baptised St John Preston ,5th of March 1814,family search org


on lancs opc Twiner Thompson Thompson,
father a weaver
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: olliebeak on Sunday 08 January 12 07:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for your quick replies!

I certainly didn't expect anything so quickly - cheers for that.


I don't think it's the same Thomas Thompson and Isabella, though.  My Thomas Thompson died in India in 1840 (of Black Fever) while serving with the 3rd Light Dragoons.  His widow died at sea in the same year - also of Black Fever - while returning home with their son.  Their son (James Turner Thompson) was born in India and, on arrival back in England, was given over to the care of his father's family in Preston.


Turner Thompson (witness to marriage of John and Prunella Thompson) certainly explains the unusual middle name of my g-g-grandfather.  On some census records 'Prunella' is spelt incorrectly.


I'm thinking that, maybe, the Thompson family originated in Northumberland region.


I can't find any reference to Thomas Thompson (or Isabella) prior to 1839 when they registered James Turner Thompson and had him baptised at Meerut, Uttar Pradesh, India.  Thomas is buried at Cawnpore/Kanpur Cemetery.

Once again, thanks for your efforts on my behalf.
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Galium on Sunday 08 January 12 12:54 GMT (UK)
James and Mary Thompson, both aged 60 are with John and Prunella in 1841 - relationships are not recorded of course, but it's likely they are John's parents. James is a cotton weaver.

It is possible that they are the James Thompson and Mary Turner who married in Blackburn 1 January 1801.  This James Thompson is also a weaver. (On the Lancashire OPC site)
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 16 January 12 12:38 GMT (UK)
St John Preston
22nd July 1832,
Robert Thompson child of Thomas and Isabella
fathera soldier
abode Caton Street
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 16 January 12 12:40 GMT (UK)
St John
16th of June 1833
Mary Ann Thompson,
child of Thomas and Isabella
abode Fishwick,
father a soldier
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 16 January 12 13:19 GMT (UK)
I know that you will have your ancestors baptism in India ,but someone may be able to help with the military side of your look ,up as and where the regiment were stationed may give you the marriage area ,
there is one in Manchester in 1828 to Isabella Blackburn,Manchester Collegiate


James Turner Thompson,
birth,20th of March 1839
Meerut,
Parents Thomas,3rd lt Dragoons
mother Isabella
baptism Meerut,14th of April 1839
Title: Re: St.John's, Preston 1835 - marriage look up please.
Post by: olliebeak on Monday 16 January 12 14:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Radcliffe - thanks for all that information.  Defiitely given me lots to think about and to go on :).

On the record for Thomas' death in India in 1840, it gives his age as 23.  That would make him 15/16 at the birth of Robert in 1832 and 17 at the birth of Mary Ann in 1833 - a little young in both instances but certainly not impossible.

I see from GenUKI that Fishwick is a Towship of Preston in 1833 - so it's certainly the right area :).

That is the record for JTT's birth in India. 

Baptism - 14th April 1839
Place                          - Meerut
Parents                       - Thomas Thompson, Corp 3rd Lt-Dragoons; Isabella
Baptised by                 - J Whiting, Chaplain


Burial of Thomas Thompson     - 20th September 1840
Place                                                          - Cawnpore Cemetery, Meerut

Cause of death was Black Fever.

I have a family letter stating that Thomas and Isabella both caught Black Fever.  They were due to return back home to England when Thomas died.  After his burial, his widow and child boarded a ship for England.  Isabella died and was buried at sea after which JTT was placed into the care of the captain.  On arrival in England, he was given over to Thomas' family in Preston.

The next record of him is on the 1851 Census - age 11/12 - living with John and Prunella Thompson. 

In 1860 he is recorded as being married - age 21 - at St.Mary's, Prescot to Anne Stobbs. 

On 1861 Census he's registered - age 22 - living in Brook Street, St.Helens with his wife.


Thanks for your efforts on my behalf  ;D