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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: TammyW on Thursday 05 January 12 11:30 GMT (UK)
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The only information I have is on Ann Pawley. I don't have her Birth, but I do know that she was married to James Dowle in 1816 Great Canford, Charminster. She died in 1818 in Chilfrome. I just can't seem to find any Pawley's from those areas and have no idea what towns are close by.
I would like to find more of her line and need some advice on finding her relatives.
Thanks,
Tammy
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This will help ID places nearby.
http://www.curiousfox.com/uk/r.lasso?vid=17735
Pauline
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Hi,
The transcript of the parish record shows James Dowle to be of Chilfrome and Ann to be otp; the marriage taking place in Charminster.
FamilySearch.org has the marriage taking place in both Charminster and Great Canford. :-\
Charminster and Chilfrome are both in the west of the county, as opposed to Great Canford (Canford Magna) which is in the east.
Ann's burial is on the Chilfrome page of the Dorset OPC and gives her age as 25; so a possible birth year of 1793.
Nanny Jan
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Thanks PaulineJ and Nanny Jan.
I just checked Findmypast.com and found an Anne Pawley born 1793 in Hermitage. I think this could be her. Do you know if Hermitage is far from Charminster?
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Hi,
Hermitage is in the west of Dorset; I'm guessing around 10 miles from Charminster.
Looks a good find for Ann; Dorset OPC gives a date of 9 June 1793 for a baptism of Anne, daughter of Henry and Elizabeth Pawley/Paul at Hermitage.
Nanny Jan
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Hi,
From the marriages on the Hermitage page of Dorset OPC:
Henry Pall and Elizabeth Pittman, 21 April 1783. Witnesses Ralph Osmond and Jane Lavare. :-\
Nanny Jan
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I arrived at the Hermitage baptism from a slightly different direction. Whether that's great minds thinking alike or not, who can say!
From a geographical perspective, I suspect Canford Magna (Great Canford) was a sub-district of Charminster in Bournemouth. Therefore there wasn't a second wedding on the same day in Charminster near Dorchester!
If Ann(e) Pawley was born and bred in Hermitage, then Canford Magna is quite a significant distance away. If she was 'otp' at the time of her marriage, she had either moved house across Dorset or we don't have the right lady yet. James Dowle came from yet further afield, but clearly took her back to Chilfrome to live (if unfortunately not for long).
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Hi,
I'm not sure that Canford Magna included Charminster; it did have Upton, Knighton, Parkstone and Longfleet though according to the page on Dorset OPC.
Found this online:
The Birth of Charminster
Charminster has never had an official boundary and its location varies according to who you talk to. It is generally accepted that the shopping and restaurant area south of the Richmond Arms is Upper Charminster, while the rest that spreads down the hill and northwards is Lower Charminster.
Neither really represents the original settlement.
Before 1800, it was an unnamed tract of land between Moordown and Littledown and began as a tiny huddle of cottages near the junction of what is now East Way and Charminster Road. It is believed to have got its name because one of the original inhabitants came from Charminster near Dorchester.
The first detailed census in 1841 shows just three families living there - those of Fletcher the tinker, Burridge the bricklayer and Watton the farm labourer. The population was in fact bigger than you might think - the Watton family alone accounted for twelve people.
Looks unlikely that it was this Charminster for the 1816 marriage.
Nanny Jan
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Hmm. Yes. I found the same web page and see what you mean. I never realised Charminster, Bournemouth wasn't the site of a 'real' minster. Sorry for my dodgy logic. So now my brain can't cope with the concept that James Dowle married Ann Pawley twice in two different places in 1816!
Tammy's original statement was that her Ann Pawley got married in "Great Canford, Charminster". [Tammy, do you have a reason for the comma between the two place names, or should it now be changed to either "Great Canford or Charminster" or "Great Canford and Charminster"?]
If we can remove the Great Canford marriage from the picture, then it certainly concentrates events in a narrower geography, though it's currently unclear to me why a guy from Chilfrome should marry a girl from Hermitage in Charminster, then return to live with her in Chilfrome. How long did you have to live in a place before you counted as 'otp'?
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Hi,
The marriage details I gave earlier came from transcriptions by Dorset FHS, who work direct from Parish Registers, and so should be accurate.
Nanny Jan
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Looks a good find for Ann; Dorset OPC gives a date of 9 June 1793 for a baptism of Anne, daughter of Henry and Elizabeth Pawley/Paul at Hermitage.
Nanny Jan
Unfortunately can't be that Ann Pawley as this one was buried on 14 Dec 1794 at Hermitage, the daughter of Henry and Elizabeth Pawley/Paul. This is from the original PRs on Ancestry and does, unlike some of their indexing, look like a burial since the page has a split column with baptism dates one side and burials the other, so she most likely is the child baptised the previous year. They had another Ann Paul (rather than Pawley) baptised in 1795 and so far haven't found a burial.
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From the original PRs on ancestry:
Pulham
1 Aug 1790 Ann Pauley base born daughter of Betty
Pulham would appear to be not far above Charminster. Perhaps she was older than her husband and a little economical with the truth about her age ... wouldn't be the first one to do this. ::) No sign of other Pauley/Pawleys in Pulham so does need more research.
There are though other marriages of Ann Pauley in the area:
Holnest
5 Feb 1815 George Durden of Mintern Magna and Ann Pauley of this parish
Cerne Abbas
31 Dec 1822
William Dunning and Ann Pauley both of this parish
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Ann Durden wife of George has birthplace on 1851 census as Minterne. Ann Dunning wife of William has birthplace on 1851 census as Hermitage. So the Pulham Anne Pauley is still a possibility which needs further research.
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Good evening
Just as a comment on Charminster in Bournemouth -
My direct ancestors are The Watton Family living at Charminster Farm named in the 1841 census and Charminster was part of Holdenhurst Parish, Hampshire. Bournemouth was just a scattering of houses round the Bourne Stream
Great Canford parish is part of Dorset.
J