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Some Special Interests => Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms => Topic started by: downswilliam on Tuesday 03 January 12 22:52 GMT (UK)
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New Year Greetings
This ancient crest hung on the wall at my grandmothers as if for ever.
When she died in 1963, it vanished.
Can someone explain what the design is about please ?
Downswilliam
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If you know her family name, look it up here, the references cantained within may help :-
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jaq/
The family name of "Cleghorn" page 118 would be similar.
Regards
Malky
Moderator comment: link shrunk to prevent it stretching the page
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The crest is "An arm in armour embowed, the hand grasping an arrow."
It's a crest used by a number of families. My 4th edition (1905) copy of Fairbairn's Crests notes it (image attached below of Plate 198.4) as being borne by the following families: Baker, Carrie, Chaworth, Clarke, Cleghorn, Cotter, Cubit, Cubitt, Downing, Fletcher, Fookes, Godbold, Hales, Hurr, Hutcheson, Lee, Matthews, Proudfoot, Rivers, Thurburn, and Warren.
David
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In the original picture the wreath has been incorrectly reproduced as the metal, in this case silver, should always be at the left. However, that said, if you can find the arms of the families listed from Fairbairn's, the wreath may enable you to narrow down the family involved.
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Could the arm be holding a broken off tilting-spear? It doesn't look much like the feathers of an arrow to me.
This scan is from William Berry's Encyclopaedia Heraldica, plate ix image 22.
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Could the arm be holding a broken off tilting-spear? It doesn't look much like the feathers of an arrow to me.
Possibly (see the image below, from Fairbairn's Crests, 4th ed., Plate 197.7).
That crest is given as used by: Armistead, Auchmuty, Cuffe, M'Kinna, Thompson, Thompson-Meysey, and Thomson.
David
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I just found a livery button with the same " arm in armour embowed, the hand grasping an arrow". Has the family been identified ? I see Cotter and Forbisher use this. Thank you