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Title: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: edwards96 on Tuesday 03 January 12 18:23 GMT (UK)
The link below shows a baptism record for a William Edwards whose parents are Richard and Bouaty. I myself have never come across the name "Bouaty" before but was wandering if someone knows if the name is a diminutive of another more common name.
Any help will be much appreciated

Regards
Edwards96

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j9m/
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 03 January 12 18:30 GMT (UK)
The Ancestry link doesn't work if you don't have a subscription.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: sillgen on Tuesday 03 January 12 18:56 GMT (UK)
My first thought was that it was a mis-spelling of Beauty.  I see William was a twin.  Brother George.
Andrea
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: Gardener on Tuesday 03 January 12 19:01 GMT (UK)
I wondered if it was Bounty - short for Bountiful. Still not a very common name though.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: sillgen on Tuesday 03 January 12 19:14 GMT (UK)
Could be Bonaty - but still never heard of it.
Andrea
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 03 January 12 21:54 GMT (UK)
Tried to look with the new link in first post put still get Ancestry subscription page.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 03 January 12 22:10 GMT (UK)
That's because it's exactly the same link - it's just been 'shrunk'  ;D
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: MarksWife on Tuesday 03 January 12 22:14 GMT (UK)
i agree it looks like Bonaty and Bouaty! Not very helpful, sorry!  :)
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: polly88 on Tuesday 03 January 12 22:26 GMT (UK)
It definitely looks like Bouaty or Bonaty, very clearly!  I've never heard of it as a first name but I just googled it and a person with Bouaty as a first name is on FaceBook!  It's perhaps a foreign name.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: pinefamily on Wednesday 04 January 12 09:50 GMT (UK)
Could it be a misspelling of Beauty? I know its an unusual first name, but thats what struck me when I saw the excerpt original.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Wednesday 04 January 12 10:20 GMT (UK)
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Could it be a misspelling of Beauty?

For a girl perhaps, but I read that as "twin sons of Richard &  ..." ??

Ooops, misread original post. Now I'm confused, I read it as "twin sons of Richard &  ..." ??
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 04 January 12 11:20 GMT (UK)
Having looked at the writing on the rest of the page, I suspect that it's probably Bounty. 
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 04 January 12 11:28 GMT (UK)
Now I'm confused, I read it as "twin sons of Richard &  ..." ??

The full entry reads William & George Edwards Twin Sons of Richard and B....... Lambeth Street.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 January 12 14:15 GMT (UK)
Could Bounty be a Quaker name?  Or some other religious group? 

I seem to remember that names like that were used quite often at one time

Linda
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 04 January 12 15:04 GMT (UK)
Have you tried looking for a marriage for the parents to see if there is a clue to her name there?

PB
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 04 January 12 15:10 GMT (UK)
or any christennigs of subsequent children, or earlier ones?
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: davidft on Wednesday 04 January 12 15:36 GMT (UK)
I tried looking for the marriage of the parents and baptism of further children and drew a blank on both accounts. I guess this means one of the following applies

1. The marriage was abroad
2. The real nmae is not bouaty, or vaiant
3. The wife dies after the birth of the twins and the father remarried
4. The family moved to an area not covered by the IGI and\or Ancestry
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 04 January 12 15:51 GMT (UK)
What sort of dates are we talking?
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: JenB on Wednesday 04 January 12 15:58 GMT (UK)
The baptism in question was in 1746 at St Mary, Whitechapel.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 04 January 12 16:02 GMT (UK)
Absolutely no help at all but the IGI has the baptisms recorded twice from 2 different batch numbers ... one has her name as Bonaty and the other has it as Bouaty.

PB
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Wednesday 04 January 12 16:08 GMT (UK)
An internet search for bouaty turns up several first names e.g. "Bouaty K. is on facebook...", so it does (still) seem to be a valid name.

Bob
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: polly88 on Wednesday 04 January 12 16:11 GMT (UK)
Which is what I said on an earlier post Bob!!  Not sure it was noticed though!
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Wednesday 04 January 12 16:18 GMT (UK)
It definitely looks like Bouaty or Bonaty, very clearly!  I've never heard of it as a first name but I just googled it and a person with Bouaty as a first name is on FaceBook!  It's perhaps a foreign name.

So you did !! Sorry about that Polly.

Bob
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: polly88 on Wednesday 04 January 12 16:22 GMT (UK)
That's all right Bob!!  And thanks for replying!
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 04 January 12 22:26 GMT (UK)
An internet search for bouaty turns up several first names e.g. "Bouaty K. is on facebook...", so it does (still) seem to be a valid name.

Bob

There are only a few refs to the name, though, and all seem to be Indian (or subcontinental, at least) people...
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: pinefamily on Wednesday 04 January 12 22:33 GMT (UK)
The chances of there being a subcontinental origin in this case would be very slim I would imagine.
My bet is still on it being a misspelt "Beauty". Mind you, I have never come across it myself.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 04 January 12 22:35 GMT (UK)
I've never come across Bounty or Beauty...but you never know, I have a Fortunata in my tree so stranger things have happened!

I still think the second letter is an "o" rather than an "e", just comparing other examples on the page, but of course variations in letterforms are possible/probable.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: pinefamily on Wednesday 04 January 12 23:14 GMT (UK)
I don't doubt it has been written as "Bouaty", but I think it was meant to represent "Beauty", especially given the time frame.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: polly88 on Thursday 05 January 12 11:23 GMT (UK)
Why is it unlikely to be a foreign name?  Given that we now know Bouaty exists as a name, surely that's what it is?
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: roopat on Thursday 05 January 12 11:40 GMT (UK)
In a Norfolk accent  'Beauty' is pronounced Booty - when I first saw it I thought it was the writer's attempt to write Beauty (which is quite a complicated spelling really) but heard in a Norfolk accent. Not explained it very well  ::)  Then I saw this wasn't in Norfolk so back to the drawing board...... My money's on a mis-spelling of Beauty.

Pat
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: davidft on Thursday 05 January 12 11:56 GMT (UK)
I think the answer to unravelling this is to find out more about the family - perhaps if the Op came back and told us what else they know about the family it would help
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: pinefamily on Thursday 05 January 12 20:39 GMT (UK)
Why is it unlikely to be a foreign name?  Given that we now know Bouaty exists as a name, surely that's what it is?

It still could be a foreign name, but I was referring to the post about the current instances of it being on the subcontinent. Given the era, its unlikely to have its origin there.
Also given the era, the chances of a mis-spelling are quite high, with or without an accent.
My Dowdeswell's had been in London for several generations, but there are some wacky variations of the spelling in the 1700's.
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: chinakay on Friday 06 January 12 06:40 GMT (UK)
It's a real name, but it's Hmong or at least Laotian. Ancestry lists a Bouaty Her, and I know that Her is a Hmong name...we have lots of Hmong people here.

Beauty, on the other hand....there are pages and pages of them on Ancestry.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Ever heard of the name "Bouaty"?
Post by: edwards96 on Saturday 14 January 12 17:33 GMT (UK)
I would just like to say thank you to everyone who has contributed to this issue ;)(sorry for the late reply).  Unfortunately the baptism record is the only source of information I know of referring to the name "Bouaty." I've tried searching for "Bounty"and "Beauty" on Ancestry in the London area however there seems to be no reliable results for the 1700s. It's a shame really because we'll never know for sure who this "bouaty" is and whether or not she was born in another country.  ???