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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: norfolkgal on Wednesday 11 May 05 10:11 BST (UK)
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A few months ago as I was clearing my mum's house, I came across a piece of jewellery and it has me puzzled. The jewellery has inscribed on it - "Helen McCurdy, Died Sept 4th 1818 - The Maid is not Dead but Sleepeth".
Now I have been trying to find out who this Helen McCurdy was and why my mum would have had this piece of jewellery. Several contacts have told me that there were McCurdy's in Antrim so I thought I would post this message. Have any of you come across a Helen McCurdy in your research that would fit the bill? Any help really appreciated as this is bugging me.
Thanks
Norfolkgal
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Hello Norfolkgal,
This is an interesting little puzzle you have set. Why was the jewellery not buried with
Helen ? It might be worthwhile to check Griffiths to see if there is a Helen as head of
household. If so she may be named after her ancestor and that may give a clue to the
Helen who died in 1818.
www.failteromhat.com/antrim.htm Griffiths Valuation of Ireland 1861 - 1862
http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/index.cfm Irish Ancestry Surname Search shows the
distribution of the name McCurdy in Ireland during the years 1848 - 1864.
By the way in what part of Norfolk do you live. I have relatives living in the county.
Best Wishes, Christopher
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Hi, Thanks for your interest in my Helen McCurdy. Unfortunately I am still no further forward, although have a few possibles. It is the date of death that will clinch it.
I am from Near King's Lynn.
Best wishes
Norfolkgal
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Hi, Thanks for your interest in my Helen McCurdy. Unfortunately I am still no further forward, although have a few possibles. It is the date of death that will clinch it.
I am from Near King's Lynn.
Best wishes
Norfolkgal
Have you thought of sending a photograph of the piece of jewellery and the story to one of the local newspapers here ? That might be a line of enquiry worth considering
Best Wishes
Christopher
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Hi Christopher,
Sorry for the delay in replying. (almost 1 year!!!)
I might persue the newspaper atricle later.
Thanks for your interest.
regards
Norfolkgal
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Hi Christopher,
Sorry for the delay in replying. (almost 1 year!!!)
I might persue the newspaper atricle later.
Thanks for your interest.
regards
Norfolkgal
No problem there norfolkgal.
There was no need to apologise for the delay in replying.
Best Wishes, Chris
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Helen was a daughter of William McCurdy a surgeon and apothecary , formerly of H M Royal Navy ... he lived near Hambledon in Hampshire.
He was born in Ballymoney County Antrim and was married to Elizabeth Cuppage. They had several children though many of them died young, of which Helen was one. They had connection with the Madras Native Infantry. At least two sons were there and died there. Another was in the Royal Navy ...
kind regards
Shane McCurdy
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Hi, Wow! What a surprise to get a reply after all these years. I am presuming you are related to Helen McCurdy. I don't know how my mother got this brooch.I do think it might have been passed down through my dad's family. I wonder if Helen was related to my GG Grandmother, Mary Weymss born 1831 in Ireland. She came over to England and married my GG Grandfather, Samuel Major in 1849 in Astbury, Cheshire. Do you have any Weymss in your tree?.
Ofcourse my mum may have just bought the piece of jewellery somewhere because she liked it.
Thanks for taking an interest.
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Re William McCurdy:
http://www.sageoldbooks.com/egap/mn.html#McCurdy
. His eldest daughter, Helen, is named in Gower’s will as his 'much esteemed and most valuable friend'
Gower being Admiral Sir Erasmus Gower.
Of particular interest at the web page link:
. Hellen McCurdy ( c. 1790 - 1818) A piece of jewellery is held in a private collection in England. It has the following inscribed on the back; 'Helen McCurdy - Died Sept 4th 1818 - The Maid is not Dead but Sleepeth'. Died 'at lodgings at Southsea common, aged 28.'
ps this is another thread that proves patience can be a virtue, and the benefit of a site, such as Rootschat, retaining old posts. From what I recall of Christopher when he was on Rootschat, he enjoyed a puzzle and would have no doubt been delighted that Helen's identity was now known[ /i] . :)
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Thanks for this information - I can only think that the piece of jewellery held in a private collection is the piece of jewellery that I have - Hardly in a private collection - but sounds good.
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The author of the book, when researching it, apparently gathered lots of information that was not used in the final production of same. Perhaps worth sending them a message, enquiring if they have any other details that might help you.
Contact page
http://www.sageoldbooks.com/egap/contact.php .
Perhaps your family later acquired it from the 'private collection', or had it passed down to them at some stage.
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find my past a Ellen McCurdy is buried in Hampshire 1818
http://www.findmypast.co.uk