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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Kent => England => Kent Lookup Requests => Topic started by: bmckenz on Wednesday 28 December 11 13:34 GMT (UK)
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Hi Everyone
Hope someone can help to sort out a mystery. William BUTTON Innkeeper married Jane COLLINGS @ Rolvenden 13 September 1768 although this record lists him as a widower. I am searching to confirm his previous marriage. This could be to Sarah STANDING/STANDEN 16 April 1760.
I have baptism records showing a William and Sarah BUTTON baptised:
Sarah on 2 May 1762
Samuel on 29 July 1764
Richard on 6 November 1766
then
a William and Jane baptised:
Anne on 25 June 1769
John on 17 February 1771
I can't find any death/burial records for Sarah to confirm that this is the same William and Sarah and then William and Jane :(. Although a listing in the churchyard of St Mary the Virgin in Rolvenden (#266) indicates a Sarah BUTTON wife of William died in 1766 aged 33. I know there are a lot of BUTTONS in the area and they seemed to use the same series of names, so I'm nervous of :-\ just thinking that this is the same William BUTTON
Hope someone can shed some light on this :)
regards
Barbra
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Hi Barbra :)
I can confirm all the records in your posting, although on my CD the marriage to Jane Collings doesn't state that William is a widow.
He married Sarah STANDEN on 16 April 1760.
Then I found burial records:
Sarah Button 11.6.1766 (wife of William)
Jane Button 3.12.1773 (wife of William)
The death record for Sarah is interesting because she may have died giving birth to Richard and one of our records may be have been transposed in transcription (11/6 or 6/11)
Best wishes HL :)
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Hi HL
Thanks for the speedy reply and for confirming my records. Although it is Jane rather than Sarah who is in my direct line, (Anne Button is my ancestor)- just for the sake of accuracy I like to make sure my records are as correct as they can be.
Do you happen to have any information on Jane COLLINGS (BUTTON) parents?
Thanks again for the information
regards
Barbra
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There are 3 BUTTON memorials at Rolvenden
265. Sarah wife of Richard BUTTON died August ye ……. 1772 aged 59.
266. Sarah wife of William BUTTON died ……. ye 1766 aged 33. Neath this place lies …………children. Left issue surviving ………….and …………
267. John BUTTON died 28 November 1847 aged 76. Hannah his wife died 28 July 1858 aged 88.
http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsRolvenden/01.htm
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Hi Barbra,
Firstly..... sorry, it is me who has transposed the records (6/11 and 11/6) :'(....so I'll get it right this time!! Sarah must have died in childbirth incidentally.
There is no birth record for Jane Collings at Rolvenden. The marriage record does say OTP but sorry, I can't help there. I can try another parish for her if you have any idea where she's from though.
The records I have found are:
Baptism.....Samuel Button, son of William and Jane 1.7.1772.
Sarah Standen, daughter of William and Sarah 30.1.1733/1734
Burials........Samuel Button, son of William and Jane 17.8.1773.
Sarah Button, wife of William 6.11.1766
Richard Button (infant) 17.11.1766
Jane Button, wife of William 12.3.1773
Sorry I can't find Jane Collings, especially as she is the most important person to you, but come back to me if I can help any more.
Best wishes HL :)
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Hi Bearcat
Thanks for the additional information on other BUTTON memorials
regards
Barbra
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Hi HL
Thanks for the extra information on the other BUTTONS, I'm a bit stumped now as other than Biddenden or Tendenden, I don't know of any other possible birthplaces for Jane Collings- and these are just a guess as the other family that the BUTTONS are later associated with (MOON) seemed to move between the three locations.
I will try to see if FamilySearch has anything useful and will surely get back to you if I find any clues to Jane's birthplace or parents
Thanks again for all of your work on this
regards
Barbra
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Thats ok.....and I'll have a little more look around when I get a moment and get back to you if I find anything :)
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Hi Barbra,
Well, sorry to say, I've had a good scout around and cannot find Jane Collings/Collins/Collens in any records I have for the area surrounding and including Rolvenden. I've looked at Benenden, Biddenden, Cranbrook, Hawkhurst and Tenterden to name but a few and sadly no luck. :'(
I did wonder whether Jane could have been a widow but can find no relevant death record for a Mr Collings in Rolvenden.....so I'm a bit stuck now........sorry.
Best wishes and good luck HL :)
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Hi HL
Thank you very much for all of your help with this. Not having an age for Jane makes the search very difficult so I appreciate you searching other areas :).
The only Janes I could find were a Jane Collins bap 8 July 1750 in Chatham Kent by John and Elizabeth Collins and on Family Search, a Jane Collins bap 4 July 1731 in Bethersden Kent by George and Jane Collins. But not knowing an age for Jane it's hard to know if either of these are right :-\. And not knowing the area makes it hard to know if these places are close enough to Rolvenden to be even included in a search.
I also tried to check Settlement Certificates for the area/name/years but no luck with these either. The information on Ancestry re the marriage of William and Jane that lists William as a widower, identifies Jane as a spinster both OTP.
As William is identified as an Innkeeper at his marriage perhaps I can try for his will/probate records as these may turn up some information. Do you have a record of his death date?
Again thanks very much for all of the searching for the origins of the elusive Jane
regards
Barbra
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Hi Barbra :)
I don't have Bethersden birth records, only marriage 1556-1708.
Bethersden is probably about 8 miles from Rolvenden, so the birth of Jane Collins in 1731 is very likely your Jane.
I've looked at the Rolvenden records again and this is what I've found:
Christenings.....
17.3.1699/00. Samuel Button. Son of Richard and Mary.
5.8.1733. William Button. Son of Samuel and Sarah.
2.5.1762. Sarah Button. Daughter of William and Sarah.
29.7.1764. Samuel Button. Son of Willam and Sarah.
6.11.1766. Richard Button. Son of William and Sarah.
25.6.1769. Anne Button. Daughter of William and Jane.
17.2.1771. John Button. Son of William and Jane.
1.7.1772. Samuel Button. Son of William and Jane.
Burials......
24.12.1747. Sarah Button. Wife of Samuel.
3.5.1765. Samuel Button. Infant.
14.3.1729/30. Samuel Button.
17.8.1773. Samuel Button. Son of William and Jane.
2.3.1775. Samuel Button.
24.9.1793. William Button.
29.3.1814. William Button. Age 52.
4.9.1785. William Button........alongside this entry they have.....Poor (P might be Plague)
Marriages.....
26.6.1726. Samuel Button and Sarah Sampson.
There are a great number of Button records in Rolvenden but I think the above are probably all relevant to you. However, which death record applies to your William I don't know!
I did have a scout around for Wills but to no avail.
I also looked for a Rolvenden christening for Sarah Sampson, who may be Williams mum but there are no Sampson christenings at all in Rolvenden.
If you'd like any more lookups feel free to ask :)
Best wishes HL :)