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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: missterri on Tuesday 27 December 11 12:39 GMT (UK)
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Please could anybody help me locate what happened to a family member beatrice Louise Adelaide bristow born in 1881 post Adelaide parents George Bristow and Elizabeth Anne Bristow they moved around Australia but last record i can find her is in Albany Western Australia 1906 don't know if she married around then or died but i can find nothing after this she also went by Louise Adelaide Bristow hoping someone can give me somewhere else to look or has information on her or any family
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In case you don't have these :
Death of her mother in 1913 in Albany
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article70108583
And of her father in 1915 in Albany
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article70118972
and a nice obit to her father
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article70118978
It doesn't mention Beatrice unfortunately but places the parents in Albany until their death 1913-1915
regards,
Ros
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Can't see a birth around 1881 in WA,Vic,Tas or NSW.What is the record you have in 1906?
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hi
The last recoding of her is in Albany 1906 australian electoral rolls and she is there living with the family 2 of her brothers and both parents at two mile road and going by the name louis adelaide bristow she was born in adelaide south australia in the area of port adelaide from what i have found on line
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Family search has her being baptised on 11 Sep 1881 in St Pauls, Port Adelaide, South Australia
name: Beatrice Louisa Bristow
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 11 Sep 1881
baptism/christening place: St. Paul's, Port Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: George Bristow
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I02318-6
system origin: Australia-EASy
source film number: 951899
regards,
Ros
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Beatrice Louisa BRISTOW
Born: 21 Aug 1881
Father: George BRISTOW
Mother: Elizabeth OATES
Registered: Port Adelaide, South Australia
Page No: 12
Volume No: 266
Debra :D
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No sign of marriage or death on WA BMD.
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she was born in adelaide south australia in the area of port adelaide from what i have found on line
Do ask for help with SA bdm's....many of us have resources. I have found the online records to be incomplete.
BRISTOW Beatrice Louisa
21 Aug 1881
Father George BRISTOW Mother Elizabeth OATES
At Port Adelaide PtA 266/12
This is possible Beatrice Louisa Adelaide BRISTOW with her sister Winifred Victoria BRISTOW who married Reginald Percy NORTON and subsequently was divorced.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j0m/
Is that your public tree on Ancestry?
Cheers
Cando
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Marriage
BRISTOW Winifred Victoria
NORTON Reginald Percy
District Albany 1905 Reg#1817
Cando
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Perhaps you may like these
Elizabeth’s death notice 1913
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j0j/
Obituary for George
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j0k/
George’s death notice 1915
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j0i/
George in a spot of bother
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j0l/
Cheers
Cando
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Winifred's death notice
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0j0o/
Cheers
Cando
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thank you all for your hard work in searching
cando your post on her sisters marriage makes her still alive and living in albany in 1911 at the age of 30 i also didnt have the details of her christening so that is an added bonus
:P
poor george hey getting fined for not sending his kids to school the amounted days
the fact that they all went to war eventually some of them to both wars didnt count i guess
thankfully they all came back :)
thanks missterri
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missterri do you have a public tree on ancestry?
Cheers :)
Cando
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have searched through a lot of pages in trove today looking at this ladies siblings obituaries and have one i think may be her
for her brother john george bristow has a louisa sister and brotherinlaw jack phelps
so now the hunt begins again but it sounds hopeful
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A marriage possibility:
PHELPS John A Male
BRISTOW Annie L Female
E COOLGARDIE
98
1915
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
and the following burial possibility:
PHELPS Beatrice Louisa 81 years 1963 PERTH
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00121334
Leanne
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There is the following digitised ww1 service document which is for a John Albert PHELPS with wife Annie Louise
PHELPS Albert John
Service Number - 1986
Place of Birth - Adelaide SA
Place of Enlistment - Blackboy Hill WA
Next of Kin - (Wife) PHELPS Annie Louise
http://naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/index.aspx
Leanne
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thank you so much ennael seems to fit in with the time frame as most of the children of george bristow did not marry until after his death in 1915 and with her brothers all away at the war sounds a possibility and the fact that her younger sister was living in this area also
i couldnt read the home address in his war records i think it looks like 4 nash street perth ? wondering if they had any children would make my life a whole lot easier if they also had a tree
thank you again i will keep on looking i really think this may be her
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John was 24 years in 1916, born SA. Only birth that 'matches'. He is John Albert on his marriage registration and electoral rolls however her is Albert John on his attestation papers. There is no birth for an Albert PHELPS in SA c1884.
PHELPS John
17 Jan 1884
Father Philip PHELPS Mother Elizabeth MOUNTSTEPHEN
At Templers Bar 319/70
Australian Electoral Roll
1916
PHELPS Annie Louise 196 McDonald Street, Kalgoorlie HD [original address in John's attestation papers]
and at the same address
PHELPS Oscar William, 196 McDonald Street, Kalgoorlie Jockey
No enrolments until.....
1931
PHELPS Annie Louise 191 Newcastle Street, North Perth HD
PHELPS John Albert 191 Newcastle Street, North Perth Motor driver
1936, 1937, 1943, 1949, 1954
PHELPS Annie Louise 234 Stirling Street, North Perth HD
PHELPS John Albert 234 Stirling Street, North Perth Motor Driver
1958
PHELPS Annie Louise 194 Stirling Street, North Perth HD
PHELPS John Albert 194 Stirling Street, North Perth Motor driver
1963
PHELPS John Albert 194 Stirling Street, North Perth Motor driver
1968
PHELPS John Albert 238 Beaufort Road, Perth No occupation
Buried at the same location as Beatrice Louise - his age may not be correct - different to year of birth at WW1 enlistment
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KB00142840
You have their dates of death from the cemetery records and perhaps their death notices may be helpful. I suggest you ask the State Library of WA for copies of notices if available.
Of course their 1915 marriage cert would list names of the bride and groom's parents but certs are quite expensive in WA.
Cheers :)
Cando
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thank you ever so much for you hard work this is great maybe there is extentions of his family i will look around abit see what i can locate
again thank you
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I have made an error with John Albert's birth. I wondered if Oscar William PHELPS who was on the electoral roll at the same address as Beatrice Louise at Kalgoorlie in 1916, may have been a brother. John Albert was not born in South Australia and his year of birth was 1892 which ties in with the information on his attestation papers and his age at death on the burial record. Misled by his statement he was born in Adelaide. Sorry about the incorrect information. He was considerably younger than Beatrice Louise Adelaide/Annie ::)
Births in Victoira
PHELPS John Albert
Father William Mother Elizabeth WHEATCROFT
At Wirrumbirchip 1892 Reg#9105
PHELPS Oscar William
Father William Mother Elizabeth WHEATCROFT
At Wirrumbirchip 1894 Reg#7995
PHELPS Arthur Frank
Father William Mother Elizabeth WHEATCROFT
At Wirrumbirchip 1896 Reg#24471
Wirrumbirchip was the former name of Birchip.
Marriage in South Australia
PHELPS William 21 years Status Single Father John PHELPS
WHEATCROFT Elizabeth 22 years Status Single Father John WHEATCROFT
17 Mar 1886
At the residence of J Wheatcroft, Cunningham Dal 1096/146
Births in South Australia and none of them in Adelaide. Can't always believe information on documents ::)
PHELPS Amelia Adelia
22 Aug 1890
Father William PHELPS Mother Elizabeth WHEATCROFT
At Dowlingville Dal465/342
PHELPS Hurtle Henwood
2 Feb 1889
Father William PHELPS Mother Elizabeth WHEATCROFT
At Dowlingville Dal 433/91
PHELPS Walter Henry
31 Jan 1887
Father William PHELPS Mother Elizabeth WHEATCROFT
At Price Dal 389/281
Death
PHELPS Albert John
Father William Mother Elizabeth
At Perth 1971 79 years Reg#3019/71
Either Beatrice's or Albert's death certificate would detail children, if any.
I noticed a William and Elizabeth PHELPS on the 1906 electoral roll at East Coolgardie. He was a blacksmith. There is a death reg for an Elizabeth PHELPS in 1911.
Cheers
Cando
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:) terriffic Cando i have a lot to work on now cant thank you enough ;)
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Hurtle Death notice:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/27306864?searchTerm=hurtle phelps&searchLimits=l-title=The+West+Australian+%28Perth%2C...%7Ctitleid%3A30
Leanne
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70 page digitised WW1 Service record:
www.naa.gov.au
PHELPS Hurtle Henry
Service Number - 3198
Place of Birth - York Peninsula SA
Place of Enlistment - Blackboy Hill WA
Next of Kin - (Sister) MACKENZIE Millie
Page 46 gives his name as Hurtle Henwood but he seems to go by the name of Hurtle Henry.
Leanne
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COMPLETED
thank you so much