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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: J Dickens on Tuesday 20 December 11 09:21 GMT (UK)
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Just wondering how to get records of trials held at Suffolk Assizes?
My ancestor was tried 23 July 1818 at Suffolk and sent to Australia for a sentence of 7 years.
Thanks
John
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I should imagine your best bet would be the Suffolk Record Office, Gatacre Road, Ipswich.
Put that into your search and go from there, should give you all the information necessary to procede.
Regards... Andrew.
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Would the National Archives hold any relevant documents?
charlotte
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Could you give us his name please?
Steve
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His name is David Smith, a biscuit baker born about 1800 in either Wapping or Norwich (conflicting records).
He was charged with larceny alongside these two accomplices:
Robert Berry, laborer of London
Henry Kedman, farm boy of Cambridge
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have you seen this?
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SUFFOLK/2008-11/1226505513
Cati
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If a Rootschatter has a rare copy of Richard Deeks' 'Transportees from Suffolk to Australia 1787-1867' - they may be able to check if any information for you.
Unfortunately this was published after Richard passed away (the book was completed by his son). Although many requests have been made for a reprint, his widow has refused to print any more copies.
Copies are like gold dust ::)
Pat ...
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Hi John
I've sent you a PM
Steve
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The Bury and Norwich Post = July 29th, 1818
Suffolk Assizes.
Henry Kidman, David Smith and Robert Berry for stealing eight one pound notes and forty shillings in silver, from the dwelling house of John Evans, of St. John's were each sentenced to be transported for seven years.
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I checked out "Richard Deeks - Transportees from Suffolk to Australia 1787-1867" at the State Library.
It stated the same as the The Bury and Norwich Post.
DAVID SMITH - convicted at Suffolk Assizes, Ipswich 23rd July 1818,
sentenced to be transported for seven years, for stealing eight £1 notes and
forty shillings in silver from the dwelling house of John Evans of St. John.
(Ipswich Journal)
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The reason for the confusion regarding his birthplace is because:
Convict shipping records - Wapping
Death cert filled out by son - London
Criminal register for having his Inn open on the sabbath in 1848 - Norwich
It seems stange to me that someone would be from London area and move to Suffolk. I would have thought that the other way around would be more likely. a move from Norwich, Norfolk would also be a likely move.
It makes it difficult to trace any further back when his surname is SMITH and he is either from London or Norfolk...
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Where did David Smith die? Am I right in thinking he returned from Australia?
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Hi,
Can anyone help me?
I'm trying to find the Suffolk Assizes record for my ancestor John Garrard who was convicted at Suffolk Assizes for a term of life on 24 March 1813.
He was transported to Australia on the General Hewitt; departed England on 26 August 1813 and arrived in New South Wales on 7 February 1814.
All the convict papers I've found so far in Australia make no mention of the crime he received the life sentence for.
Is there anywhere online that I can find the trial transcripts or is anyone able to do lookups for this sort of thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you taking the time to read my post :)
Jules
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Hi Jules
The Hulks register at Portsmouth gives the crime as "CR" - the newspaper report for the trial has:
"for a burglary in the house of Mr Philip Steggle of Wickham Skeith and stealing thereout divers monies and goods" Sentenced to death & reprieved
Steve
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Hi Steve
Thanks the information on John Garrard and especially for replying to my enquiry so quickly! What does "CR" stand for - I haven't seen that one before. Anyway thanks again for helping me with my brick wall. I'm sure John Garrard has more surprises in store for me yet :D
Regards
Julie
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Hi Julie
I'm sorry, but I've no idea what CR stood for - the list also has "felony" & "larceny" written out in full. I've sent you a PM as well
regards
Steve
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Thanks Steve :)