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Title: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 19:46 GMT (UK)
Hi, hopefully someone can help me as i'm getting lost on ancestry! I'm looking for Florence Edith Coleman born. 7th march 1889 and died March 1983 in Essex. She was married to Ernest Frank Tipler and they had 6 children
Evelyn I A Tipler

B: 1914

Beatrice Marjory Tipler

B: 1915

Ernest A Tipler

B: 1919

Ronald J Tipler

B: 1925

Clifford E Tipler

B: 1929

Victor H Tipler

B: 1931
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: groom on Wednesday 14 December 11 19:52 GMT (UK)
Hi

Is that your tree on Ancestry? If not, there is one on there with this family.

What exactly are you looking for, and what information do you already have?

Jan
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:06 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for anything really. It probably is my tree if the owner is kayley Toyer? All I know about her is that her name was possibly double barrelled and her dad had to change it after a slightly dodgy business issue (may be a myth) and that her mother died and she had a stepmother. I don't know much about genealogy yet so I'm at a loss as how to properly search and make sure it's the right people!
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:09 GMT (UK)
This appears to be her birth registrtion - perhaps a copy of her birth cert is needed

Births June qtr 1889   
Florence Edith Coleman    St. Olave  1d 297

Do you know her fathers name? 

Marriages September qtr 1913   
Florence E Coleman/Ernest F  Tipler  West Ham  4a 587   
 
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:16 GMT (UK)
I don't know for sure. I somehow ended up with Arthur Coleman but I'm not sure what I searched to come up with that!
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: groom on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:23 GMT (UK)
1891 census
RG12; Piece: 356; Folio 120; Page 25  Newington St Mary


Arthur Coleman   40
Sarah Coleman   38
Eveline M Coleman   5
Arthur Coleman   2
Florence E Coleman   1

However if you are certain of her marriage you really need her marriage certificate as that will confirm her father and you can work back from there.
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:29 GMT (UK)
You do need her marriage cert as the 1891 entry above is not her - baptisms show her as Florence Helen b 8.12.1899 parents Arthur & Sarah - Arthur was a telegraphist and the 1891 shows that as his occ
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: groom on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:34 GMT (UK)
In that case, you really do need the certificate as I think this is the family you have been following on your tree on Ancestry.

Jan
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:35 GMT (UK)
Quote
born. 7th march 1889

Death reg shows birthdate as 7th May - not March but GRO image has 7 MR

Either month would fit the birth reg I found above
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:41 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much. I'm going to try and find out more from my grandad! His dads side was a lot easier than this! Is there anyway I could find out where in service people were? I know Florence was in service in London but no one alive now ever asked enough questions.
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:43 GMT (UK)
The birth was definately 7th march 1889. Had she lived she would have been 100 the day I was born so that's the one piece of info I'm 100% sure of!
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:48 GMT (UK)
Re: your question about her time in service.

You would need to find her on the 1911 census and you can't really do that at the moment until you establish her birthplace.  So it's one step at a time at the moment

Marriage cert first

 
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:50 GMT (UK)
Is ancestry the best place to order that from?
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: groom on Wednesday 14 December 11 21:17 GMT (UK)
No, do it from the General Register Office, they are £9.25. I believe you pay more through other sites.

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: lostinthetree on Wednesday 14 December 11 21:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much. Most appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Florence Edith Coleman
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 December 11 23:13 GMT (UK)
Never order via Ancestry - they are £22.99 per copy