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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: Crabby on Sunday 11 December 11 17:33 GMT (UK)
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G'day RootsChatters
I am researching the Surname EDMONDS and have surfed across George Gilbert EDMONDS who lived in Ipswich around 1895.
This came from his being the next of kin, father,of George William EDMONDS b c 1895, who was KIA in 1917 at Ypres while serving with the Australian Army.
I assume that George Gilbert EDMONDS was born around 1870 and married Emily Pearce .....? before 1895 in Ipswich.
Of particular importance is to discover the parents of George Gilbert EDMONDS.
Can any RootsChatter please assist?
With sincere thanks
CRABBY
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Hi Crabby, the marriage would appear to be:-
George Gilbert Edmonds to Emily PIERCE Warren June 1896 Ipswich 4a 1459
Keyboard86
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Hi,
FreeBMD has this birth registration:
George Gilbert Edmonds MarQ 1875 Camberwell 1d 727
If this is your man then both parents should be shown on birth certificate.
Nanny Jan
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Hi again Crabby, interesting birth:-
George William E Warren March 1896 Ipswich 4a 883?
Keyboard86
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G'day Nanny Jan and Keyboard86
Thank you for researching my query and responding.
Reference is made to 'Warren'. Is that a location? in Victoria?
Crabby
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Hi Crabby, "Warren" is a commonish surname in the UK why ref to Victoria?
This looks like Emily in 1891:-
William P Warren 41 occ Sawyer b Ufford Suffolk
Emma 43
EMILY P 12
Bertha M 10
William P 9
Walter 8
Samuel F 1
All other than William Snr born Ipswich
Residing at 35, Fore Hamlet, St Clement, Ipswich.
Census Ref RG12/1470/62/28
Keyboard86
And her birth Emily Pierce Warren March 1879 Ipswich 4a 685
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Hi,
Birth registration of Emily's father?
William Pierce Warren MarQ 1850 Woodbridge XII 522
Nanny Jan
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Hi,
1901 has Emily P Edmonds (22 married) with children George W (5) and Lily M (3) living at 1 Chapel Court, Fore Hamlet, Ipswich St. Clement.
RG13 1777 72 40
Nanny Jan
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Thank you all for responding to my posting.
My George Gilbert EDMONDS was born abt 1828 and may have been in Wexford IRE.
Crabby
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G'day RootsChatters
I am researching the Surname EDMONDS and have surfed across George Gilbert EDMONDS who lived in Ipswich around 1895.
This came from his being the next of kin, father,of George William EDMONDS b c 1895, who was KIA in 1917 at Ypres while serving with the Australian Army.
I assume that George Gilbert EDMONDS was born around 1870 and married Emily Pearce .....? before 1895 in Ipswich.
Of particular importance is to discover the parents of George Gilbert EDMONDS.
Can any RootsChatter please assist?
With sincere thanks
CRABBY
Hi Crabby, we now have a George Gilbert Edmonds b c 1870, who is now possibly a George Gilbert Edmonds b c 1828 having a child George William Edmonds c 1895, is that your reasoning?
So is the 1901 posted by Nanny Jan your George W or not, ie a man of 73 with a 22 year old wife ?
Keyboard86
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G'day
George Gilbert EDMONDS, my GreatGrandfather, was born abt 1828, possibly in Wexford IRE.
After 20+ years of research, I may have been successful in tracing him to Rathespeck Wex. He died in 1906 in Brisbane and he is buried under an imposing obelisk in the South Brisbane Cemetery [near to where I live].
What sparked my interest in this other/younger George Gilbert EDMONDS , is that I am looking for any of my GG's brothers: [He could have had 4 brothers according to a USA source.]
Perhaps this younger GG could have been a son ie. a nephew of my GG!!
I am not suggesting that the 2 GGEs are the same person!
!Even I could not respond to such an age differential!
Back to the point .....
I have not been able to confirm my GG's B&D because apparently, there was an error in recording his 'Father's Name' on his Death Certificate. His own name was inserted against that query. [Perhaps his obedient wife called him 'father'!!]
The apparent error has been confirmed by the Qld. Archives.
Furthermore, there were no Births recorded in Wexford in 1828.
Therefore I have had to search for and rely on family anecdotes.
Hence, if the younger GGE is a nephew, I can persue his family for further information.
AND/OR identify and search official records.
Is that logical?
Thank you P for once again questioning my suppositions.
Crabby
Hope you had a Merry Christmas, as did we, and a happy and prosperous New Year!
B
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Hi Crabby, let us work backwards first ok, what are your thoughts on posts 1, 2, 3 and 7?
Keyboard86
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Hi Crabby, let us work backwards first ok, what are your thoughts on posts 1, 2, 3 and 7?
Keyboard86
POST #1:
Hi Crabby, the marriage would appear to be:-
George Gilbert Edmonds to Emily PIERCE Warren June 1896 Ipswich 4a 1459
Keyboard86
I mistook the surname to be WARREN, not PIERCE.
Warren is a location in Victoria!
Ipswich is a locality in Queensland
POST #2:
Re: EDMONDS
« Reply #2 on: 12 December 2011, 02:56:29 »
Hi,
FreeBMD has this birth registration:
George Gilbert Edmonds MarQ 1875 Camberwell 1d 727
If this is your man then both parents should be shown on birth certificate.
Nanny Jan
Camberwell is also a location in Victora!
POST #3:
Hi again Crabby, interesting birth:-
George William E Warren March 1896 Ipswich 4a 883?
Keyboard86
Ipswich is a location in Queensland!
My father was born in this Ipswich on 28 December 1898; but, it does not appear to be the Ipswich in Posting #3
POST #7:
Hi,
1901 has Emily P Edmonds (22 married) with children George W (5) and Lily M (3) living at 1 Chapel Court, Fore Hamlet, Ipswich St. Clement.
RG13 1777 72 40
Nanny Jan
Up to this Response I was a little confused.
Overall response -
I began by chasing the possibility of the younger George Gilbert EDMONDS being a nephew of my George Gilbert EDMONDS. Unfortunately from the responses I have not been able to tie the younger to any particular line.
For the record, the amount of EDMONDS research that I have done is shown in the following -
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/edmonds/pats
some 2000 persons!!!
I am extremely greateful for the responses to my Post, but, at the moment it does not clarify th issue I hoped for.
ie. That the EDMONDS parent of the younger George Gilbert EDMONDS may have come from Wexford.
Thank you for your research and responses
CRABBY
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Hi again Crabby, I still am confused? Was your father? born 28th December 1898??in the UK or Australian Ipswich? as you know his exact birth date, what info is on birth certificate? Their seem to be on the previous posts a considerable amount of coincedences to the 1896 marriage?
Keyboard86
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G'day
In my initial posting, I was attempting to find the parentage of a George Gilbert EDMONDS b abt 1870 in Suffolk:
However, we appear to be mixed up by the duplication of locality names.
My father's pedigree is -
Harold George Vivian EDMONDS b 28.12.1898 Ipswich Australia
son of
George Washington EDMONDS b 9.05.1865 South Brisbane Australia
son of
George Gilbert EDMONDS b bet 1825-1833 possibly Wexford IRE.
All were married in Australia!
Thanks for your continued interest.
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Hi Crabby,
What are your thoughts regarding nanny jan's George Gilbert Edmonds birth rego March Quarter 1875 Camberwell 1d 727 ?
The Registration District of Camberwell in those days contained parts of London and Surrey, does the fact that he was born in the nowadays Greater London area rule him out of the equation?
Regards and a happy new year to all.
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G'day
In my initial posting, I was attempting to find the parentage of a George Gilbert EDMONDS b abt 1870 in Suffolk:
However, we appear to be mixed up by the duplication of locality names.
My father's pedigree is -
Harold George Vivian EDMONDS b 28.12.1898 Ipswich Australia
son of
George Washington EDMONDS b 9.05.1865 South Brisbane Australia
son of
George Gilbert EDMONDS b bet 1825-1833 possibly Wexford IRE.
All were married in Australia!
Thanks for your continued interest.
Hi Crabby, and a Happy New year to you, the confusion lies in the above post, you state you are looking for the parentage of a George Gilbert Edmonds born abt 1870 SUFFOLK, is this in the UK or Australia? ie where does the knowledge of a potential father b c 1870 Suffolk in the UK, departing from the UK to Australia eminate from?
Keyboard86
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Hello Findem and Keyboard86
Thank you for your research and responses, they are very much appreciated.
I note that the George Gilbert EDMONDS I am researching as part of my overall research, was born MarQ 1875 in Camberwell [ENG ]reference ID 727.
George Gilbert EDMONDS [b1875] was married during JuneQ 1896/Ipswich, [ENG] reference - 4a 1459 to Emily Pierce WARREN.
I am still attempting to discover the parents of George Gilbert EDMONDS b 1875.
A very happy and prosperous New Year to all!
Crabby
in Brisbane
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Hi,
1901 has Emily P Edmonds (22 married) with children George W (5) and Lily M (3) living at 1 Chapel Court, Fore Hamlet, Ipswich St. Clement.
RG13 1777 72 40
Nanny Jan
Hi again Crabby, have finally located the elusive George G Edmonds married to Emily P Warren b Camberwell b c1875 via his military records, but remember the George W b c 1896 appears to be a Warren not an Edmonds?
An abridged transcript of the records to highlight the info already given:-
Wife Emily Pura? Warren at 1, Chapel Court, Fore Hamlet, Ipswich
Marriage at Register Office Ipswich Brides father being Wm P Warren
Mothers address Hampton/s Avenue, Camberwell
His Father was a Frederick b c 1844 Amberley Worcestershire, his mother was a Maria b c 1850 Hadleigh, Essex.
Keyboard86
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Hi again Crabby, screen started to bounce so new post!
1891 Census
Maria Edmonds Widow 40 b Hadley, Essex
Frederick A 18 occ Labourer b Wilmington, Kent
George G 16 occ Labourer b Camberwell
John W 14 occ Printers Boy b Camberwell
Walter P 12 b Camberwell
Edith A 8 b Camberwell
Edgar H 6 b Camberwell
Residing at 8, Hampton Avenue, Camberwell
Census Ref RG12/464/19/31
1881 is RG11/695/75/44
Cannot locate George or Frederick, Frederick may be in Wales?
Keyboard86