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Title: Road block
Post by: hiszafer on Saturday 10 December 11 00:06 GMT (UK)
James and Jessie (nee Allan Scott) Lockhart emigrated with sons James and Allen to Canada (province unknown) between 1882 and 1887 and then to the USA where daughter Mabel was born. They returned to Canada living in Toronto until Jessie died. I have records for everything but immigration. Have searched passenger lists, ship lists, Ellis Island records - can't find any of the four. Stumped!
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Saturday 10 December 11 01:21 GMT (UK)
Do you have birth dates or at least ages for each family member at the time they emigrated? And where did they originally emigrate from?

Jacquie
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: vbain on Saturday 10 December 11 20:01 GMT (UK)
have looked through Family search.
Also Worldconnect
Lots of Lockharts, but no Jessie.
Need a date!
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: hiszafer on Saturday 10 December 11 23:51 GMT (UK)
James was born 25 Dec 1853 in Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Jessie was born about 1860 in Edinburgh - I think her middle name was Allan and her last name Scott.
They married 1878 in Leith South, Midlothian, Scotland
first born son James was born April 1879 in Leith - I have been able to trace him as an adult living in Canada and have visited his grave (I live in Canada although born in Scotland)
Second son Peter Allan was born Jun 1882 in Leith.
Daughter Mabel's birth 4 Feb 1887 in Brooklyn New York

I'm assuming that they emigrated from Scotland - probably Glasgow but they could have sailed from and English port.
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: JDC on Sunday 11 December 11 02:20 GMT (UK)
Hi hiszafer,

Have you looked at records for Pier 21?

JDC
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: hiszafer on Sunday 11 December 11 23:00 GMT (UK)
It would appear that data prior to 1925 is not available online or am I incorrect?
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: jorose on Monday 12 December 11 00:20 GMT (UK)
There is passenger data from 1865 onwards - however not everything is indexed.
(there do exist some passenger records before 1865 but that's the date from when comprehensive passenger lists start).

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/lac-bac/search-recherche/anc.php?Language=eng
 - look here under "Immigration and Citizenship"

Another problem: on some lists of this time you will find people listed with only initials or just as, e.g. "Mrs Lockhart".

Which US/Canadian censuses do you have the family on?
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: hiszafer on Monday 12 December 11 20:17 GMT (UK)
In 1881 he is on Scottish census
Haven't found him on 1891 Canadian census but he married again as a widow in Toronto in August 1891 so he may have missed the Canadian census if he was in the US prior to Canadian census.
Can't find him on 1901 Canadian census although I can find his family living at 118 Toronto West, Ward 4
In 1910 he dies - address Robert St, Toronto
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: JDC on Monday 12 December 11 21:24 GMT (UK)
Greetings,

Have you looked at USA-Canadian border crossings on Ancestry?


JDC
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: vbain on Monday 19 December 11 16:22 GMT (UK)
I was just in Anc*** and found a picture of a grave stone, showing James' dates and also an obit. Perhaps the person could contact me?
or not?
Title: Re: Road block
Post by: hiszafer on Monday 19 December 11 20:24 GMT (UK)
That would be my Ancestry tree - Lockharts of Midlothian