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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: nmcasey on Friday 09 December 11 06:51 GMT (UK)
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Could someone confirm a marriage between a "William John Evans" and a "Mary Ann Faulds" or a "Mary Ann Kean"
The marriage was on the 28th June 1854 in the Parish of
Ballyrashane County of Londonderry Ireland.
The reason for the confusion, on the marriage of one of the daughters in Scotland the maiden name of the mother was given as "Kean".
William and Mary Ann Evans had a number of Children in Ireland but two in Scotland but both times they stated the mothers name as "Mary Ann Foulds"
Regards
Nc
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I can't see marriage in the Irish civil marriage index that matches these names and date. What denomination were they?
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Religion will be the crucial thing here. Civil registration of Catholic marriages began 1864 and registeration of non-Catholic marriages, including registry office, began in 1845.
The marriage didn't take place in Ballyrashane Presbyterian Church but 'parish' would usually just refer to Church of Ireland or Roman Catholic churches.
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I do have details of a family from the North Antrim area who used the spelling Faulds (as well as Fall, Falls and Faul). An Alexander Faulds (c1806-1881/5), son of William Fall, married Mary Kane but his daughter Mary Ann was born c1845. Alexander married 2nd Mary Evitch in 1849. Alexander stayed in the Portrush, Co. Antrim area but some of his family moved to Scotland.
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Hiya, just registered and found this post. I am directly related to Alexander Faulls and Mary Kane through their son John who moved to Ayrshire and then Glasgow. I already have Alexander's and Mary Evitch's marriage, their son John / Mary Belford's marriage cert - my line, daughter Nancy / James Kelly marriage cert, and daughter Margaret / Archibald McMullen marriage cert. Do you have any more information on Alexander? I know from his marriage cert that his father's name was William, but after that I'm stuck.
Regards
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The marriage certificate of Alexander & Mary (1849) lists Alexander and his father William as FALL. You need to consider all variations of the surname (Fall, Faul, Faulds, etc. and possibly the very common North Antrim surname McFall/McFaul) but it might be very difficult to find further records.
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thanks anyway
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Dear Aghadowey, Just came across this message again, and on re-reading noticed that you have details of Mary Ann Falls being born around 1845. Do you have any more details of this and of any other children to Alexander Fauls (various spellings) and Mary Kane or to his second wife Mary Evitch. They were all protestant.
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Unfortunately my files are all packed away at the moment.
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that's ok, but if you could keep me in mind when and if you unpack them. Regards,
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Am able to get to some of my records and found the following which may, or may not, be of interest.
8 Feb.1852 Ballywillan Presbyterian Church, Joseph Kelly, age 26, bachelor, servant, ? , son of James Kelly, servant, to Nancy Fall, age 21, spinster, servant, Portrush, daughter of Alexr. Fall, fisherman [writing is bad]. Bride signed as faull, witnesses William Faull? & Anne Daragh. Same church as marriage of Alexr. Fall & Mary Evitch.
12 May 1863, Ballywillan Presbyterian Church, Archibald McMullan, full age, bachelor, Corstown?, labourer, son of Joseph McMullan, labourer, to Margaret Faul, age 18, spinster, Magherabuoy, daughter of Alex. Faul, labourer. Witnesses: William J. McKendry & Matilda McIntyre.
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Thanks for those. From memory I know of both but I am in Gran Canaria just now. Will check when I return. Doug.
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Sorry for the delay. Yes, I too have a copy of the marriage certificate of James Kelly and Nancy Fall dated 8th Feb 1852. Just a couple of things, 1. whilst the date of the marriage is 1852 the marriage certificate records the marriage as 1853 in the top line of the certificate. I don't think it really makes any difference. 2. Yes isn't it great when Nancy Fall signs herself as Nancy Faull. Take your pick.
I also have a copy of the marriage between Archibald McMullan and Margaret Faul on the 12th May 1863. You have helped me with the writing on the certificate, with "Corstown" and "Matilta". Margaret died on the 1st May 1878 in Springburn in Glasgow, age 34. Her death was reported by her husband A McMillan. Archibald later changed back to McMullan and emigrated to Nebraska. One of the witnesses at Archibald's second marriage in 1880 was a Matilda Milligan. I wonder if this is the same Matilda?
I also have another marriage certificate on the same day at the same church between my great great grandfather John Faulls of Portrush and Mary Belford of Glenrob. John's father is Alexander Faulls. John moved initially to Ayrshire and then to Springburn in Glasgow and used the common Ayrshire name of Faulds. Maybe they were Faulds originally when they settled in Ireland. He died in a coal mining accident on 30 Sep 1881 and his death was reported by his brother-in-law, "Arch McMillan".
I also have Alex Falls' marriage certificate to Mary Evitch in 1849. His second marriage.
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I also have another marriage certificate on the same day at the same church between my great great grandfather John Faulls of Portrush and Mary Belford of Glenrob.
Rev. Woodburn's writing is really bad but I don't think Mary's residence was Glenrob. However, I can't find anything likely in the parish/area. Since she was a 'house servant' it's likely she was living aaway from home at the time (although I can certainly find Belfords in the area).
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Looks like Glenrob, but I'm not too bothered. I know that Mary Before is correct because the name appears as a middle name in later family. If you discover or find any more keep in touch. My email is (*). I can send copies of certs if you want. Regards, Doug.
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An old topic but yesterday new information came to light regarding likely son of Alexander Fall & 2nd wife
Nancy Mary Evitch.
Pension application for a James Fall (our Fall connection) gives parents as Alexander & Mary!
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I notice that the heading for your post is Faulds or Kean. I believe that Alexander Fall's first marriage was to Mary Kane. Mary Kane (Kean) died and Alexander married Mary (not Nancy) Evitch on the 15th April 1849. There then appears to be 2 children of that marriage, Mary Jane Fall in Portrush, about 1850, and James Fall who I have as about 1851, probably from you. I also have James Fall's 4 children, again probably from you, Mary, Maggie, William and John.
I must try to find James Fall's pension application.
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I've corrected Mary Evitch's name (not sure why I put Nancy). I wasn't the one who started this topic and I also have 1st wife as Kane.
The pension application for James didn't seem to find him in 1851 census although Mary Jane is listed (no age) so it's likely that James was born after 1851 census.
Strangely enough, I got his marriage certificate from GRONI for James Fall and his wife was Margaret Rankin Fall- her father listed as John and I'm also trying to trace that line now to see if they connect at some point.
The 1911 census says that Margaret Fall had 10 children with only 4 living* although I've only found a few so far-
James (1879), Mary* (1881), Margaret* (1884), Alexander (1888), William* (1891), John* (1896).
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Turns out I already have a copy of the 1921 pension application, 1851 census substitute. I thought they had verified his pension but I see what you mean about not actually listing him. I also have the 1911 census which lists the two parents and William 1891 and John 1896.
Have you had a look at the 1901 Census for 8 Dunluce Street, Portrush, which has, James age 48, Maggie age 45, Maggie age 16, Mary age 20, William age 9, John age 5. No James (1879) and no Alexander (1888).
In 1901 there is also a John Fall, age 68, at 1 Dunluce Street, Portrush (Widower), and his son William, age 25, both born in Co Derry. Could be Margaret Rankin Fall's father? Living close beside his daughter as his wife was dead?
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John Fall at Dunluce St. in 1901 died 1905 Ballymoney Infirmary. I think his wife Mary died 1898 and I haven't tried tracing son William Fall yet.
James & Maggie Fall's son Alexander went to America (or so I was told years ago) but James wasn't ever mentioned so I think he might have died young.