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i have just found out that charles reilly was court martialled for arson 20/8/1862 wellington somerset uk.
i can access the british newspapers to see if it was published.does anyone have any idea of what paper i should be looking at for that area..i can't find any wellington or somerset newspapers..
also any other ideas on how i could find his record.
thanks..
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TRY WELLINGTON 'SHROPSHIRE' U.K'
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Hi,
We have someone who was court martialled (in the Navy) in the 19th C and we got a copy of his record electronically from the National Archives.
Brie
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hi helgra
can you give us a birth year and place of birth for him please only i,ve looked in service / pension records and there are 28 charles reilly,s there so he may be one of them .
regards
trevor
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Wellington in Somerset is near Taunton. (There is also a town called Wellington in Shropshire.)
Some old newpapers covering the area are:
Taunton Courrier & Weekly Advertiser
Bath Chronicle & Weekly Gazette
Wells Journal
Western Gazette
Rambler
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I'm a little confused by the other thread - that says he was tried in Madras - where does the info of Wellington in Somerset come from?
i am searching for a country of birth and any other details for charles reilley or riley.aka reiley or retley.
he was born about 1844.i have his convict details but no country of birth-thinking usa..
came to west aust as a convict(OCUPATION,SAILOR) on the ship merchantman.convict no 8117.
trial was in madras 20/8/1862.sentenced to 14 years for arson.
he married emma bonser 1874 in west aust and died about 1888..
thanks ..helen
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Hi guys. :) David your query re Madras. The information Chas was convicted at Madras is found on the Australian Convict Index 1788 - 1868. Date 20 Aug 1862. A quick trip to the UK in chains? ??? At a General Court Martial at Wellington, Somerset, England 20 Aug 1862, he was sentenced. Ref: Australian Convict Transportation Registers, Wellington, Somerset, England. 14 years for arson, with William Larmour or Sarmors. Then transported from Chatham 14 Jun 1864 on the 'Merchantman,' bound for the Swan River Colony in Western Australia. Ref: UK Surgeon Superintendents Journals of Convict Ships Merchantman. All found at ancestry.com.
Be interesting to find where he was held for those two years 1862 - 1864.
The court martial at Wellington suggests he was in the Navy, his occupation listed as 'sailor.' Might also explain his tats.
The British India's Civil Wars c. 1848 - 1881, involving Madras, suggests Chas was putting his political two bobs worth in...
Dates on these records indicate he was born 1841/1842. I suggest he was Irish.
Information on the Royal Navy and the court martial would be interesting. The newspaper directions are very helpful! :) :)
Cheers
Jud
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Just to add to the confusion of where ::) Charles Reily was sentenced under a General Court Martial at Wellington, Somerset on the same day having been said it was Madras....... :-\ and Charles being a sailor, as was his father.....there was a ship named 'Madras,' built 1827, half burned 1844, "lost by fire," but, said to have been listed 1860 (but not 1864) to the Mercantile Navy, registered London.
http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/marhist/maryport/madras.html
Can anyone make sense of this please? The ship and the sentencing, I mean, not the email....then again... :-\ Did it live to sail again with the Mercantile Navy, after having been said to be "lost." ???
Hats off to those who looked a little deeper at Charles's tattoo's, :-* definitely a sailor, and had sailed around Cape Horn, ( ship in full sail), some USA convictions with the American Coat of Arms.........
Would appreciate any comments.
Jud
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well thanks judy.
so thats true ?if they have the ship in full sail tattoeed on their body-that means they have sailed around cape horn? is that right?
i'm learning every day..
amazing stuff..
helen
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Hi Helgra ;)
Yes it is interesting, found a paper on line that explains ' reading the bodies of seafarers.' They wrote all their cultural, political and personal convictions via the way of tattoos during long days at sea on their arms and chests. They did have meaning to them.
http://matrix.msu.edu/hst/hst202/docs/newman_essay.pdf
It definiently confirms the tats were made by mariners who were at sea a long time. The anchors etc, Liberty written was common, for when they went to shore !
You could also google wikipedia on Cape Horn....the ship in full sail was their pride and joy, for those who achieved it. Their committment to the American Coat of Arms is interesting, even though I have the idea they were British, perhaps Mercantile Navy. Court Martial in England. Perhaps the parents emigrated to the US early on.
I was hoping some of the clever miltary guys on the site could help find more about Madras.......the place or the ship...they are very knowledgable about navy and military and court martials. :) :) :)
Not like some of us girls......... :-[
Anyway, every little helps.
regards
jud
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thanks judi
very interesting and i hope i do get some feed back from the military.
sometimes they are a wealth of information.
i am having trouble finding a death certificate for him..
he had a son that died 1897 in western australia but unfortunately it wouldn't give charles pob.
thanks again.helen..