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Title: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: melibob on Tuesday 06 December 11 00:07 GMT (UK)
My ancestor's sister in 1901  was enumerated as an imbecile in the Cheshire Co Lunatic asylum, I believe in Macclesfield.  Someone posted here in 2010 that they would do a look up in the records to see when someone was admitted, who signed the papers, etc.  I would love to have that information if possible.  Her name was Julia Hosking, born 1846 in Redruth, Cornwall, dau of Elizabeth Betsy Withiel Phillips and William Hosking.  Julia didn't marry and I have located her in the England 1851, 61, 71, 81 and 1891 censuses.  In 1891, she was a lodger in the Thomas H. Shade dwelling in Butley, [3  1/2 miles n of Macclesfield], Cheshire. I don't find that family related to Julia.  If someone has or can find more info about my Julia, it would be fabulous.  She apparently died in the 3rd quarter of 1908 in Macclesfield, which leads me to assume she was still a patient in the asylum.  I can be emailed at  melibob4  at  texasbb  dot  com     Any info will be a help.   Thanks!
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 06 December 11 00:37 GMT (UK)
hi,,she was buried 7th sept 1908 and is buried in Manchesters Cheetham Hill Weslyan cemetery,grave number 6204,,,,she died of  Chronic brights disease  ;)
her mother Elizabeth owned the grave,,and she is also buried in the grave.
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: melibob on Tuesday 06 December 11 17:35 GMT (UK)
Hello, Gortonboy and thank you sooo much for your information!  Wonderful!  I had no idea where Julia's mother was buried, nor when she died.  She is my direct ancestor.  Is her date of death or burial on the stone or in what ever records you have?  And can you tell me the source you have for the info on Julia and her mom...so that I may document my  research.

Elizabeth's husband, William Hosking is a great mystery....  I haven't been able to find him in any of the census records with Elizabeth and their children.  I think he might have been in prison after 1852.  He died in Redruth in the first qtr. of 1880 according to the England and Wales Free BMD on Ancestry.com.

And I am wondering if anyone out there takes pictures of grave markers?  It would be lovely to have a pic of their stone.   And again, Mr. Gortonboy, you are a genie treasure.  Thanks again.

Meli in Texas, USA
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 06 December 11 18:31 GMT (UK)
hi,,the cemetery is no more,,,the record came from parish burial records on the findmypast website.

Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: melibob on Tuesday 06 December 11 22:18 GMT (UK)
Ah yes,  after i posted my reply to you, I googled that cemetery and read all the history of the demise of it and the church..  Well, thanks to you, I now have a much clearer understanding of what happened...Thanks again

Meli 
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 07 December 11 00:32 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth Hosking b1849  42 Beresford Road,Birkinhead
 
grave number 6204

owner of grave A,W, Hosking 

died of heart disease age 45  buried Nov 29th 1894
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 07 December 11 00:37 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth Hosking b1810  13,Crystal Terrace.Blackpool.
 
grave number 6204

owner of grave Elizabeth Hosking

died of   Decay of nature  age 84

buried february 26th 1894
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: melibob on Wednesday 07 December 11 16:21 GMT (UK)
Hello, Gortonboy Extraordinaire!   You keep amazing me....and have also given me a clue to the elusive William Hosking who now shows up as A W Hosking....wow.  I wonder if he is in that grave too!  Thank you hardly seems adequate!  Wish I knew how to add that big grinning smiley...

Blessings, your friend in Texas
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 07 December 11 21:58 GMT (UK)
when was your elusive William Hosking born and where?
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 07 December 11 22:07 GMT (UK)
Rosina Hosking born c1851  17 Beech Street,Waterloo rd,Manchester.

grave number 6204

owner of grave Elizabeth Hosking

died of infection of the lung age 17

buried June 16th 1868

i cant see a record for any other Hoskings buried in this grave.
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 07 December 11 22:26 GMT (UK)
hi,,she was buried 7th sept 1908 and is buried in Manchesters Cheetham Hill Weslyan cemetery,grave number 6204,,,,she died of  Chronic brights disease  ;)
her mother Elizabeth owned the grave,,and she is also buried in the grave.
just to add  her residence was given as Parkside,Macclesfield.
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 07 December 11 22:30 GMT (UK)
i have just realised i have read the records wrong,,,the addresses given are not the addresses of the owner of the graves,,but the address of the person who was being buried ..i have edited the posts so they make more sense    :-[
Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: melibob on Thursday 08 December 11 00:07 GMT (UK)
Oh my goodness,  another one in that grave! Yikes.  But I am thrilled to have the info.

Turns out that the A W hosking that owned the grave property after his mom died, was not my William Hosking, but their son, Albert Whitford Hosking.  He was born in Redruth in 1839 and died in London in 1900.

My William, who I think was a criminal, was also an iron founder, b. 1808 in St. Uny, Redruth and died in 1880, Redruth.  I have him in the 1841 and 1851 censuses with wife Eliz Betsy and she has babies with him through Nov 1852.  But by 1861 Betsy and surviving kids are in Camborne with dau Priscilla Harris and husband Abraham; 1871 in Cheetham, Lancashire as well as 1881, when she is enumerated finally as widow.  But under every creative spelling I can think of, I cannot locate William in 1861 or 1871,then he dies in 1880.  He was an iron founder in the 1841 and 1851 censuses and had the Hammer Mill foundry in Redruth in 1855 according to the West Britton and Cornwall Advertiser.  Also, he pops up in that newspaper from time to time in trouble with the police...

Thanks for the info on Rosina...man, Betsy lost a lot of kids....Meli

Title: Re: Cheshire Lunatic Asylum patient - help
Post by: elzabels on Thursday 08 December 11 01:02 GMT (UK)
Parkside Hospital Macclesfield,

You may find this of interest

http://www.
countyasylums.com/mentalasylums/parkside01.htm