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Title: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Sandie437 on Tuesday 10 May 05 04:23 BST (UK)

I am seeking the following ancestors. They were all in George Street, Hastings in 1851 and 1961, so am hoping they are there in 1841. The surname is misspelt frequently, variations include MUSTCHIN, MUSTCHEN, MUSTCHAN, even MUSTION and MUSTIAN.

Benjamin MUSTCHIN/MUSTCHEN, born 1796 in Hastings, Shipwright
Sarah MUSTCHEN/MUSTCHIN, his wife, born 1799 in Folkstone, Kent

Elizabeth HUTCHINSON, born 1794 in Hastings, hopefully her husband will be there too.

Any other MUSTCHEN/MUSTCHIN's in Hastings or anybody living with them would be great.

Regards
Sandie MUSTCHIN

5 centuries after the first record found for the family and I still have to spell my surname or it gets misspelt

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Thursday 12 May 05 09:36 BST (UK)

Hi Sandie

Have checked the 1841 census for Hastings including:
All Saints, St Michael, St Andrews, Holy Trinity, St Mary-in-Castle(out bounds), St Mary Magdalen, St Leonards on Sea, St Mary Bulverhythe, St Clements, St Mary-in-castle

but without success.

There is no one listed with the name MUSTCHIN, MUSTCHEN, MUSTCHAN, or even MUSTION and MUSTIAN.

Sorry to be so negative

Chris in Hastings

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Sandie437 on Thursday 12 May 05 11:55 BST (UK)

Thanks for looking Chris. Back to the drawing board.

Regards
Sandie

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: allibaker on Monday 16 January 06 08:28 GMT (UK)

dont know if you already have this sandy?
benjamin mustchen bapt 2nd oct 1796 at hastings all saints.parents james and ann mustchen.
benjamin mustchen married sarah sharpe 15th sept 1818 at hastings all saints.
regards
alli

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Sandie437 on Monday 16 January 06 08:43 GMT (UK)

Wow, Thank you very much for this. I knew the events had happened but had never confirmed it.

Thank you.

Sandie

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: carol_cholsey on Monday 16 January 06 19:49 GMT (UK)

Hi Sandie,
This may be the entry for Elizabeth in 1841:
ref HO107 1107-05 folio 37 page 3: George Street, St Clements, Hastings
Thomas Hutchinson age 79 occupation is very unclear
Elizabeth do age 45
Charles do age 34 tailor
Mary do age 30
all born in county
xx Carol

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Sandie437 on Monday 16 January 06 21:03 GMT (UK)

Carol, this is truely a heart felt thank you. I have searched for her husband and could never find him.

Thank you.

Sandie ;D

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Monday 16 January 06 22:08 GMT (UK)

Sandie

His occupation is 'Shipwright'

Hope that helps

Chris in 1066

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Monday 16 January 06 22:27 GMT (UK)

Hi there

Sorry, I dont want to throw a spanner in the works here but I think we are being mislead - the 1841 census does not state that Elizabeth is the wife of Thomas Hutchinson.

Looking for the Baptisms for Charles and Mary we get the following:

St Clements, 22 May 1807, Charles Hutchinson, son of Thomas & Mary
No baptism for daughter Mary though.

But, to argue against that I have just found

Location: Northiam, East Sussex,  Date: 12 Apr 1819:
Groom: Thomas HUTCHINSON, widower
Bride: Elizabeth MUSTCHER

I wonder if the MUSTCHER is a miss spelling of MUSTCHEN

So, did Thomas marry twice, having the children with his first wife which could have been:

Location: Hollington, East Sussex,  Date: 13 Dec 1792:
Groom: Thomas HUTCHINSON, widower from St Clements.
Bride: Mary LAVENDER, from St.Leonard
Married by Licence.

This family history lark certainly keeps the mind active

Chris in 1066
 
 

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Monday 16 January 06 22:51 GMT (UK)

Hi Again

Looking at the burial registers for St Clements, Hastings

It looks as though Thomas died as follows:

St Clements, Hastings, 6th March 1846, Thomas Hutchinson aged 81 years

One of these could have been his first wife Mary

St Clements, 1st Nov 1810, Mary Hutchinson - no age given
St Clements, 16th Aug 1812, Mary Hutchinson - no age given

Chris in 1066

Title: Re: 1841 census lookup for Hastings, SSX
Post by: Sandie437 on Monday 16 January 06 23:08 GMT (UK)

Hi Chris,
In the 1851 census a Charles HUTCHISON can be found in Kent with wife Mary Ann.

The ages and birth places match??

I also found Thomas marrying an Ann FOORD on 13 Dec 1801 in St Clements, so assumed she was the first wife and the mother of boy Charles.

I assumed also that Elizabeth was the second wife.

In 1851 Elizabeth is still in George st and her brother Benjamin and his wife and grand son are living with her.

So now with all the findings I now assume:

Thomas married Mary in 1792
Charles was born in 1807 and married the said Mary in the 1841 census and the Mary Ann in the 1851, both being the same women.
Mary died in either 1810 or 1812

Thomas married Elizabeth in 1819.

I would look at MUSTCHER and MUSTCHEN/MUSTCHIN all being the same name.

Thanks Chris that has answered some more questions.

Cheers
Sandie MUSTCHIN