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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Chanti on Thursday 01 December 11 04:25 GMT (UK)
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Hello
I am looking for help with finding information on the Long family.
My Grandma parents are Albert Long and Eleanor ? They had 6 kids that I know off one being and Eleanor Catherine Barnes the others I am not listing as I do not know which ones are still alive or deceased. I do know that they Lived in Scarborough Ontario. Not sure if they were born overseas or not though.
Hoping to find info.
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Hi,
Familysearch has the death of Albert Alexander Long, in 1930 (he was an infant). His parents were Albert John Long and Eleanor Johnston. Little Albert died in Toronto.
Scarborough is the Eastern section of Toronto. Could this be your family? If so, Eleanor's last name was Johnston.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JK4K-94B
RK
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I am assuming that your Grandma is Eleanor Catherine Barnes. Can you give us her approximate date of birth so we have a time frame to work with. Also is she the oldest or youngest in the family.
Do you know anything at all about Albert and Eleanor Long such as approximate years of birth and where born. You can give the approximate years of birth for the 6 children born to Albert and Eleanor. Also the death dates for Albert and Eleanor could also be helpful.
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additional information from the death registration of Albert Alexander
Racial origin of child was Irish
b. Sep 15 1929 and died at 4 months
Albert John Long father b. Ontario
Eleanor Johnston mother b. Aberdeen Scotland
father was informant of death and address was 51 Bleeker St.
buried St. John Cemetery
Debbie
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Hello
Eleanor Catherine Barnes (Long) is my grandma and she was born Nov 17, 1930 and died May 21, 1999
As for her sibilings I do not know any birthdates or even if my grandma is eldest youngest or middle child as I got the names from my grandmas obituary from the pages from the past of the Toronto star. I am not sure of Albert long nor Eleanor long's birthdate nor death date but I am looking into the toronto star.
I do know that my dads parents said that we are Irish but they never said who in the family was the Irish relative nor the Scottish relative either so they could possibly the ones you have found.
Thanks for the help so far. Hoping to find out more information to help us out.
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Hi again,
OK, so it looks like any possible lead might be worth following up...
Have a look at the 1911 census. If your Albert was born in Ontario, he should be on this. You can search and view this census for free at the automatedgenealogy site. There are quite a few Albert Longs living in Ontario then, but if you narrow down the ages - to someone who would be having children in the 1920s and 1930s, that makes the pool a bit smaller. There are 3 in Toronto who might fit. They all live in Toronto East. One is 15, one is 9 and one is 14. The 15 and 9 year old were born in England, while the 14 year old was born in Ontario. This shows all of the Alberts in Ontario. You can click on the ones you want to see, and you will go to the census transcription page. From there, you can see the actual census images by selecting Split View at the top of the page:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0hv4/
Here is the split view page for the Albert born in Ontario. His background is listed as Irish - so this ties in with some of the other information on this thread.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=80454
This 14 year old Albert is living with his brother John (age 28) and John's wife Annie (also age 28). John and Annie have a daughter Cecilia. There is a brother in law and aunt (in relation to John) with the last name Calfield. John was born in Ontario too.
Something to consider :)
RK
PS - I have free access to the Toronto Star. I will see what I can find too. So far, I haven't been able to find any deaths for Albert or Eleanor Long. :'(
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Hello RunKitty
Thanks for the help. I will look into it the alberts that you have suggested.
I have no idea when Albert would have been born nor where as well as when he died.
I do know that his wife Eleanor Long was still alive when I was little as we would get christmas cards from her still. Never met her though except when she as at my moms baby shower for me but that is it. And she was around when my brothers where born so that narrows our search abit. So she probably died after 1987 but not sure though. I will do some more info seeking from my Uncle and my dad.
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Hi,
It looks as if one of your Grandmother's siblings has died. Robert Long of Napanee died on July 17 2008. His family places in Memoriam notices in the Napanee Guide each year on the anniversary of his death. I won't post the direct link to the Memorials, because Robert's wife is named - and she is still living. You can find it through the Napanee Guide site. Just select Obituaries from the main page and do an Advanced Search of the In Memoriams. His are there.
http://www.napaneeguide.com/
Unfortunately, the Obituary isn't in this site. Perhaps they don't go back to 2008? The Napanee library may be able to help.
http://www.lennox-addington.on.ca/library/contact-us-library-services.html
If you can get more names, you have more people to ask :) :).
Also, I did a Canada 411 search for some of the other siblings named in your Grandmother's obituary. There are some matches - first initial, last name, and location - for the siblings' names. Check Scarborough and Pickering :) :).
http://www.canada411.ca/
Perhaps some more people to ask???
RK
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Hi there. Beg to differ, but you will find the obit at the Napanee Guide website posted above under obituaries.
Put Long in the name slot and be sure to actually type Napanee into the place slot. You will find him as 'Bob'. There is a lot of potential contact info in the obit.
PB
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Oops - :P
I tried Robert and came up with nothing. Should have thought about "Bob". Sorry. I am glad the obit is there..
RK (perhaps I need to clean my glasses??)
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Thanks for the information. Found the obit for Robert Long and I did talk to my dad again and he has not clue....... so I am going to call my uncle one of my dads brothers about it and see if he know where his sister and other brother live as we have not heard from them since 1999.
Thanks for all the help so far
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You can look for contact info for the rellies in the obit at this link to the white pages ....
http://www.canada411.ca/
PB
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Hi again,
I was at the Toronto Reference Library today and I looked in the City Directories. I started with 1973. Your Albert J. Long was listed as the assistant Foreman for the Borough of Scarborough. He lived at 79 Wye Valley Road in Scarborough. In 1974-6, the information is the same. In 1977, he is listed as retired, but at the same address. The next directory I found was for 1978/79, and he is no longer listed. Eleanor is - at the same address. I assume that Albert died between 1977 and 1979.
Eleanor Long is at that address in further directories. The last one with her name in it is 1994. She is still at the Wye Valley address. In 1995, there is no Eleanor Long in the directory. She may have died, or moved in with relatives.
I hope this gives you a better time frame to search for their death notices/cemetery records. I have looked in the Star, but I can't find obits for either of them... it is a bit frustrating!!
Hope this helps,
RK
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I know it is really frustrating. I have not found any other clues either lately. I have tried calling some of the numbers but no who is related so far.
Thanks for your help and the information. Will try to use that information to find them.
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Ok
So I think this side of my family does not exist anywhere...... Been calling people asking relatives if they know anything still can not find my aunt or uncle that may know..... Its like the whole family has vanished...................
Makes it very frustrating to get information!
Any other suggestions would be much appriaciated! >:( ??? :'(
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Hello Again
So great news I have found a great aunt that is still alive and is the sibling to my grandma Eleanor Catherine Long and we chatted for a while.
The Albert Alexander Long is the oldest sibling who died as 4mths, then my grandmother Eleanor then the 3 that are still living then the youngest is Robert who died in 2008.
Albert John Long died in 1977 in July and his Wife Eleanor Johnston died April 2, 1997 in Toronto she came across June 20, 1920 in Quebec from Alberdean Scotland. Do not know there parents or other information.
Any other information would be helpful. Thanks for everybodies help so far.
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Hi,
I am so glad you were able to connect with a relative. Given the information you received, could this be your Eleanor Johnston on the Grampian - arriving June 20, 1920?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0map/
If so, her mother and siblings are with her on the voyage. They are going to Ottawa...
Mother is Mary. Siblings are Douglas, Beryl and May
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0maq/
Looks like her father may be with the military.
RK
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Hello
Thank you for the link. Yes that is my family. I found that hint on ancestry.com but it was not as clear and I could not make out what it said.
Where you able to make out the fathers name?
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Hi,
I don't see the father with them on the passenger list, but Form 30As for the family members seem to suggest that he is travelling with them. Perhaps he is somewhere else in the manifest?
Here is the mother Mary's Form 30A. Her husband's name isn't there - unfortunately.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0maz/
RK
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Oh Ok I will keep looking but it does not list the fathers name. Will keep searching!
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Scotlands People should be able to get you the name of the parents if you buy the birth certificate for Beyl. There seems to be one marriage between Mary Williamson and ? Johnston in the years preceding the birth of the youngest child. Credits at Scotlands People are quite reasonable.
Debbie