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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: mumphjam on Tuesday 29 November 11 18:07 GMT (UK)
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I'm researching the Gibbards in North Island, specifically, near Kai Iwi, Wanganui, Wellington.
I'm trying to trace the offspring of a sheep farmer, Charles Gibbard who married an Ellen Parnell in April 1890. I know they had five children. One of these actually came back to England on a visit in 1954/55, I suspect to visit their parent's english roots. I just need help filling in details, say from censuses etc. Any thing please.
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Hi
Before we commence a whole tree, it may help if you list the children, spouses that you have so far and the one that went back to england..then we won't repeat what you have.
Have you seen the free indexes of the Electoral rolls online at ancestry..they are a great help
Bye
althea
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Hre's the list
so which ones do you already know
Registration Number Family Name Given Name(s) Mother's Given
Name(s) Father's Given
Name(s) Still Birth
1906/10596 Gibbard George Reginald Ellen Charles -
1891/17172 Gibbard William Ellen Charles -
1898/13242 Gibbard Myrtle Ellen Ellen Charles -
1894/9267 Gibbard Charles Henry Ellen Charles -
1900/12767 Gibbard Florence Gertrude Ellen Charles
Bye
Althea
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Marriages for the children
1921/4310 Maude Catherine Brown to Charles Henry Gibbard
1895/2881 Florence Ellen Gibbard to John Thomas Hazeldine
1925/1435 Myrtle Ellen Gibbard to George Allison Storey
I don't see marriages for the other 2 boys up to the 80 yr cut off
Cheers Janette
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Here is an article in Paperspast mentioning Charles seniors death
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0hs4/
Cheers Janette
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Deaths can be found at NZ BMD
1977/31258 Gibbard Reginald George birthdate 15 May 1906
Bye
Althea
Cremation Wanganui
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname GIBBARD
Given Names Reginald George
Location Wanganui Aramoho K01.10
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Possible death registration for Williamsat NZ BMD online
1961/35579 Gibbard William 70Y
Burial also Wanganui
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Surname GIBBARD
Given Names William
Age 70
Location Wanganui Aramoho K01.10
you can find burial records
http://www.wanganui.govt.nz/cemeteries/index.asp
Name Date of Death
GIBBARD, Charles Henry
GIBBARD, Delicia Russell 22/04/1980
GIBBARD, Ellen
GIBBARD, Ellen
GIBBARD, Maud Catherine 27/08/1983
GIBBARD, Reginald George 03/01/1977
GIBBARD, William
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I'm overwhelmed, thank you so much, I've spent some considerable time trying to trace this family, possibly because they must have gone steerage to get to New Zealand. Thank you, can I have some time to digest this lot of treasures and get back with a firmer idea of the family structure and any questions. Again thank you.
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How do I get at the free Electoral Rolls and census returns for New Zealand from England?
Can I obtain printouts or similar?
Again thanks for you efforts, I now have the family tree from Charles Gibbard and Ellen Parnell, (strangely no mention of the rest of the Parnell family who disappeared from Suffolk, England about 1890). Charles and Ellens children, but still no clue as to which child visited us in Banbury, Oxfordshire in 1954/55.
Do you have records of temporary emigration form New Zealand?
Thanks again.
John
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Hi John,
The electoral rolls are on Anc**try and unfortunately NZ doesn't have census
Cheers Janette
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Hi John,
The NZ Electoral Rolls only go up to 1980 on A$ry.
Cheers
KHP
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Just an observation, the Florence Ellen 1895/2881 listed in the marriages post #3 , could possibly be a sister of your Charles married 1890.
:) mare
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There are some GIBBARD passengers 1950s at find my past
they could have been related...the names are not any of the children previously given
Bye
Althea
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I think Charles came out to New Zealand on his own in about 1885. The rest of the family split up after his mother's untimely death in 1862.
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She may well have followed her brother out, several incidences of same in my families ...
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Thre are some GIBBARD in the LDS pasenger lists
how old would Florence have been 1875?? is this too early
name: Florence E Gibbard
event: Passenger
event date: 03 Jun 1875
event place: New Zealand
gender: Female
age: 0
marital status: Single
estimated birth year: 1875
ship : Earl of Zetland
departure date: 16 Mar 1875
arrival port: Otago
arrival date: 03 Jun 1875
digital folder number: 4412695
Bye
Althea
cancel that, obviously this child was with a couple
apologies listening to a webinar on Google plus at same time!!!
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That will be the bride Florence Ellen in 1895 then I guess ...
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There were Gibbards on South Island from about 1850, in business etc, that came from Oxfordshire, Berkshire area of England. This could be one of them. I'm following up on a step-sister of Charles Gibbard following him out to New Zealand.
I have discovered that William, a son of Charles, was in fact married to Delicia Russell ? and they had children. So more to follow up in the BMD records I guess. In order to get at electoral rolls for NZ I have to pay a substantial premium to Ancestry over my existing subscription, so I guess I will leave that until our depression here blows over (sometime in 2125 apparently!)
Thanks again for your help it is much appreciated.
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The free index of the rolls at ancestry is excellent
you don't get a lot more helpful details..residence address and occupation
If there is a particular one that you need info from, you can ask
but in order to track where people are the free index is really good.
The full copy is not usually helpful to find children as the children have usually left home by the time they are enrolled. so you don't get the family groups like you do on UK census
Bye
Althea
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I live in Wanganui and I have been and talked to a * who has done a Gibbard Family Tree. He is familiar with the descendants you are enquiring about. He does not have a computer so I will PM you next week with an e-mail address direct to Colin's daughter (she is away until Monday) so you can get some answers. Cheers.
*Edit by Moderator: name of living person removed.
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What a player! if he only knew how long it has taken me to track down the Gibbards at Wanganui.
Thank you very much.
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Just in case * has no idea who I am - I am Eva Slades nephew, her sister Flossie's son John Mumford. Eva was the daughter of Florence Ada Carpenter, Elizabeth Gibbard was her mother-in-law.
John
*Edit by Moderator: name of living person removed.