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I am trying to find what happen to Ralph Ernest Sherratt born 1885 Manchester I can trace him in the 1891 census as being in Stoke upon Trent, in the 1901 census as being in Hanley. then on 17/3/1907 he arrived in New York on the Campania with the destination of Pelee Island but can't find him any further
His sister Millicent Adeline Sherratt was born 1889 Manchester I can trace her in the 1891 census as being in Stoke upon Trent and 1901 census as a pupil in Birkdale Lancashire, she then marries in 1919 in Nantwich to Walter Cecil Betts, they have a child Edna who was born and died in 1922, her husband then dies in 1930 Stafford. I can't find Millicent again in the english records either her re-marriage or death, I wonder if she went to USA?Canada to visit her brother Ernest.
I would be grateful for any help
Judy
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On the original landing manifest for Ernest it is overwritten with 'Hospital' and stamped 'Non-immigrant alien' which would suggest that he wasn't expected to be staying there.
I'll keep looking!
Ah I understand, Pelee Island is in Canada, so just passing through.
Have checked the 1911 Canada census for Pelee Island, couldn't spot him, but don't have an indexed access so I might have missed him...
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It looks like Millicent was living in Lonan on the Isle of Man. 1911 census. family search.org
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well done barry,
and so is her brother
1 Blundle Terrace, Lonan
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Thanks for that, but what happened to them after that time? especially after Millicents marriage.
Judy
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National Probate Calendar
BETT, Walter Cecil - of 27 Meyrick Rd, Stafford, died 13 January 1930 at the Infirmary, Stafford.
Administration to Millicent ALICE Bett, widow
The death of a Millicent ADA Bett was registered in Stafford Jul-Sep 1971, but her birth date was 20 Dec 1895
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Are you sure that your Millicent married Walter Bett? There was a Millicent Alice Sherratt whose birth was registered Jan-Mar 1896 in Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire. It looks to me as though this was the Millicent who married Walter Bett??
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Hi
I found Millicent Sherratt marriage to Walter Bett on ancestry as follows oct-dec 1919 Nantwich Vol 8a Page 846, I saw the Millicent ALICE Bett on the probate calendar and assumed rightly or wrongly that it was Millicent Adeline especially after finding her marriage.
Judy
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But the 1919 marriage in Nantwich just says Millicent A Sherratt. I may be wrong, but I don't think it's your Millicent. However, that doesn't help at all in finding what happened to them. have you found their mother's death? I'm having trouble finding that too! Dazey
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Are the Isle of Man records online?
Barry found her there in 1911- maybe they all stayed there?
As she's a school teacher,it's likely that she never married of course.
Carol
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Hi
Just found Ernest Ralph Sherrat death on Isle of Man in 1919 Braddan aged 35 years, will keep looking for the others
Judy
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Hi
Just found Ernest Ralph Sherrat death on Isle of Man in 1919 Braddan aged 35 years, will keep looking for the others
Judy
Well done Judy ;D ;D ;D
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Oh, well done Judy!!!
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Anna Maria Sherratt, age 96, buried Lonan, 20 Feb 1952
Ernest Ralph Sherratt, age 34, buried Lonan, 15 July 1919
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Thanks every one for your help, will have to get the marriage cert to prove if Millicent Adeline married Walter Bett
Judy
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Hi everyone
I have today received the Marriage cert for Walter C Bett and Millicent Alice Sherratt, as you rightly thought its not my Millicent.
Judy
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I think your best bet would be to get her mum's death cert or a will,or even try to find an obit. Any one of them might mention daughter Millicent.
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There is a submission on Pedigree Resource File (familysearch.org) for Ernest Ralph Sherratt born Manchester 1885 but the submitter only knew his mother's maiden name - Anna Marie Boulton. Which is unusual to only know the married mother's maiden name!
Anna Marie Boulton married Ralph Sherratt Stoke on Trent area, 1883. Free BMD. It looks like someone was struggling with this line also.
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I know I`m 4 years behind according to the date on the last post about this topic but I thought I`d try anyway. Is anyone any further forward in finding Millicent Adeline ? She was my 2nd cousin twice removed (from the Boulton side of the family)
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I haven't found out anymore about Millicent Adeline, I tried contacting the Isle of Man probate dept regarding her mothers will but they didn't reply. My grandmother Rachael Adeline was Millicent's aunt, who are you related to on the Boulton side, I have been trying to find my grandmother on the 1911 census I know that she had an acrimonious divorce at that time, but is not on the census under her maiden name or previous married name and neither is my father Harry Behn, his brother Leslie Thomas is staying with Millicent and her mother on the Isle of Man
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Hi, Rachel Adeline was my 1st cousin 3 x removed, our lines split from William Boulton born about 1804. I am descended from his son William born 1826. I searched for Millicent Adeline`s marriage/death in the manxbmd.com site with no records coming up but when I typed in 'Millicent Sherratt' into a search on http://www.newspapers.gov.im/ there is a record in the births, marriages & deaths section of the Isle of Man Examiner of the 1st January 1954. Unfortunately it`s a subscription site, so you can`t view it until you have subscribed (and paid, presumably) Are you on Ancestry ? I`m linked with 6 other trees researching the Boulton`s. Thanks for replying. Dave.
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I have put a request on Isle of Man site in case anyone is visiting the IMuseum reading room who may look up the newspaper. When I looked at the site I got the impression the charges were for visiting the site. I am on ancestry but haven't a membership at present but the family tree is loaded under the name of Brett
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Hopefully someone will access the newspaper sooner rather than later. Like you, I can`t find your grandmother or father on the 1911 census, if she was a follower of the suffragette movement, there`s a chance that she refused to take part. Apparently there were a great number of women who did this and as you say, a messy divorce going on according to the documents available.
I am linked to your tree on Ancestry. If your father is Harry Behn(Shawcross), you must be Judith, which makes us 3rd cousins.
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That right. I have some copies of the divorce from the national archives made very interesting reading. Do you have any information about Joseph Boultons wife Priscilla Goodwin and her family, I haven't been able to go any further back than Priscilla on that branch of the family
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I only have Priscilla`s father`s name (Thomas) from the marriage records on familysearch.org Familysearch.org Ref: Source Film No. 1517617, 497355, 497356, 873648, 96896. One of the things that I want to do when I retire is to start travelling around to various church`s etc to try & access old parish records. I know the Salt Library in Stafford has a lot of parish records but all on Microfiche !! I got your message about the newspaper entry, back to the drawing board !! I put a request on the facebook page 'UK Genealogy' to see if anyone on there could help, I`m getting a couple of pointers. There is an 'Isle of Man Family History Society', also Braddan parish Commissioners on www.braddan.im and an e-mail address, lonancommisioners@manx.net It`s something to go on at least.
Dave
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Priscilla also had a brother William, born about 1804 in Shelton(Hanley) who she is staying with in the 1871 census. It states he is a Pottery Warehouseman(Packer). Looking back at previous censuses, it looks like he was married to an Elizabeth. There are a lot of William Goodwin`s so trying to get the right one is tricky.
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I have put a request on Isle of Man site in case anyone is visiting the IMuseum reading room who may look up the newspaper. When I looked at the site I got the impression the charges were for visiting the site. I am on ancestry but haven't a membership at present but the family tree is loaded under the name of Brett
After failing to find a Sherratt death in 1953/4 on ManxBMD, I visited the Manx Museum today.
Checking the microfiche of Births, Marriages and Deaths (Manx equivalent of GRO indexes) nothing came up there either!
So I checked that newspaper article - it was a Births announcement! ;D
Son, born 26th December 1953 to Eileen & Joe Sherratt.
(The birth is on Manx BMD - won't mention the name, as he's younger than me and probably still alive!)
The reason for the "hit" was the Sherratt birth announcement, coupled with a death announcement of Millicent Ronan on the same page! ::)
No Manx link that I can see?
Incidentally, the Manx Newspapers can be seen online - just a small fee to pay! ;D
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Thank you very much for your time, if you ever need anything looking up in London area please do not hesitate to contact me
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Priscilla also had a brother William, born about 1804 in Shelton(Hanley) who she is staying with in the 1871 census. It states he is a Pottery Warehouseman(Packer). Looking back at previous censuses, it looks like he was married to an Elizabeth. There are a lot of William Goodwin`s so trying to get the right one is tricky.
Also another sister Mary Emma who was his housekeeper in 1881 census being unmarried to him being a widower
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Hi Carol
Just seen your post regarding Millicent Adeline Sherratt, she was my Grandmother, married to John Barker Cannell, do you have any photos or more info
Val
The picture is of my sister Barbara, our mother Eda Jose, Millicent and her mother Anna Marie