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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: npl on Monday 28 November 11 14:42 GMT (UK)
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Hello Rootschatters,
I am wondering if anyone can help me. Can anyone tell me if all the parish records for Dublin have been put online at irishgenealogy.ie? If not can you tell me which parish records are missing?
Thank you.
Kindest regards,
Nora
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What area and denomination are you looking for ?
Most of the records on IrishGenealogy are for the city, but it does include some for the suburbs and county.
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Thanks for your speedy reply. I am not sure of an area of birth in Dublin. I am just going by names at the moment. I am looking for births but cannot find them. They would be Catholic but I have one line that may be Protestant. Not 100% sure on that.
Kindest regards,
Nora
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Unfortunately no matter how many parishes are added online, there will always be gaps and missing records.
At the moment at least one major City RC parish not included on IrishGenealogy would be St. Pauls, Arran Quay. This is only available on RootsIreland (pay-website). Many of the county Dublin parishes (but not all) are also included on the same site.
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Many thanks for that. I will give them a try and see what comes up. If I don't find them there then I don't know where to go next.
Kindest regards,
Nora
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are you certain these births took place in Dublin ?
If you have a couple of names and approx. birth dates maybe post the details here to see if anyone might find anything for you.. (include any census details, or later marriages if you have them)
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Thanks for your reply to my post. I am searching my MITCHELL and FOTTRELL lines at the moment. I am looking for the births of:-
Alice MITCHELL born approx 1850s father William MITCHELL. Lived at 21 Cork St, Dublin. Fathers occupation was vintner.
Bridget FOTTRELL. born approx 1830? married 1852 In St James Church (R.C). Mother Margaret.
Bridget was married to Peter MITCHELL, possible brother to the above William.
I have searched everywhere but no luck on these. Thanks for any help in advance.
Kindest regards,
Nora
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Have you found Alice or Bridget on any census returns ?
p.s. what denomination were your Mitchell family ?
Shane
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I know I looked for directory entries for Mitchell before, but the one I found was Peter ... do you have any certs or documents with an addresses for William in Dublin ?
previous topic for reference : 21 Cork Street, Dublin (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,566447.msg4188587/topicseen.html#msg4188587)
Shane
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Hi Shane,
I have a marriage cert for Alice which gives her address as 21 Cork Street and her father as William. Peter took over the running of the pub when William either retired or died.
Peter died in 1880. It gave his address as 21 Cork Street. Previous address was 32 Chancery Lane where all his children were born.
Kindest regards,
Nora
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Bridget FOTTRELL. born approx 1830? married 1852 In St James Church (R.C). Mother Margaret.
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I had difficulty searching for this marriage... looks like it was 1856 rather 1852 ?
Marriage of Peter Mitchel and Bridget Fottrell - 3 Feb 1856 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/96fd2e0456385)
No addresses unfortunately - so no clues there...
A problem with searching for early records for people in Dublin, like other cities, is that many people moved to city over the years. Unless there are clues like addresses to follow it can be difficult to work back when the parish records can lack detail.
Fottrell is quite a rare name - so it's should be easy enough to locate a baptism if it's included in the parishes covered by IrishGenealogy. Since there's no sign of it maybe Bridget was born somewhere in Co. Dublin, or even outside Dublin ?
Shane
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dont know how I missed this one earlier - how about this one for Bridget :
Baptism of Bridget Fottrel - 15 October 1826 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1356080330626)
Parents : Michl & Margaret
Parish: St. James (RC)
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Thank you so much for finding a baptism for Bridget FOTTRELL. The marriage you found for her and Peter MITCHELL is the correct one. I made a mistake in the year as I didn't have the information to hand. I don't have a father's name for her as there wasn't one on her marriage information, so I still need to make sure this is the right Bridget FOTTRELL as there were a few around at that time. I don't know of any siblings so can't find father's name through that.
Thanks again for all your efforts on my behalf. Not the first time you came to my rescue!
Kindest regards,
Nora
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Hi Nora
Just reading your post with interest.Bridget Fottrell was my great-great grandmother.I would appreciate if you could make contact with me to share information we have regarding the Fotterell, Mitchell and Cahill families.
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Hi ,
I'm looking into the Fottrells also, I have recently learned my great great Grandmother was Jane Fottrell from Co Dublin and on the 1911 census there is a Bridget Fottrell visiting her which I have taken to be her sister , from the church records for her childrens (twins) baptism her name appears as Bridget Fottrell is a sponsor for my Great Grandfather. I have yet to get her marriage cert to get her parents name and there address Jane married Peter McAuley in 1886 but the online index says they got married in South Dublin they lived and settled North Strand Dublin
It is quite an unusual surname maybe they might be connected somewhere
Also Jane had different surnames on marriage and baptism Fothrill and Fotral
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Peter's sister
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=&name2l=mcauley&namefm=&namel=crowe&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=¢ury=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=
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Mistranscribed as McCanley
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/cbbd960434598
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For reference
1901
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Bessborough_Ave_/1274328/
1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Bessborough_Avenue/19834/
Bridget 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Malahide/Beechwood/1266533/
they seem to play around with their ages a lot.
There are children being baptised in Baldoyle area Jane,Bridget and Elizabeth to Michael Fottrell and Alicia Murphy in the 1850s a possibility.
http://home.comcast.net/~fottrell.net/fottrell.htm
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Saw this one
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7f93720120121
which lead me to Alice McCauley and Alice Fottrell
http://www.myheritage.com/names/alice_fottrell
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Death March 23rd 1891 Michael Fottrell age 66 at 36 Charleville Ave dtr Bridget Fottrell present.
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might be sister Mary born 1847
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDK-5KD
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Dathai Blimey thank you so much I cant believe you found this, so many blanks filled in I have address and fathers names when they married now!!!
Thank you so much
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Edward McCauley
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1bebbd0101914
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Perhaps as van drivers they worked for a bakery
Edward 1901
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Middle_Abbey_Street/1333202/
1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_City/Britain_St__Great/36178/
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John Crowe and Maria McCauley
1901
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Howth/Raheny/1270389/
1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Howth/Raheny_Town/7324/
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Alice Fottrell dtr of Michael Fottrell and Alicia Murphy married James McCauley 14TH March 1877 in Baldoyle witnesses Jane Fottrell and Peter McCauley
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Mountjoy/North_Clarence_St_/1323225/
1911 they have forgotten how long they were married
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Marlborough_Street/23661/
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Perhaps as van drivers they worked for a bakery
Edward 1901
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Middle_Abbey_Street/1333202/
1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_City/Britain_St__Great/36178/
Had a look Edwards son Alphonse was listed as a baker in a military attestion form as his trade also my great grandad (Peter's son) was a van driver for findlaters is the only place I know he worked. I always heard stories about his horse neddy the horse was taken for use in ww1 and he never got over that
Edward is definitely Peters brother Ive been putting in details on ancestry tree and delighted to find Baldoyle as where Jane is from all I had was she was from Co Dublin.
The only thing anyone knew of Jane was she died in a house fire at Bessbourgh avenue around the 1930's now have her sisters names and where she was from!!
Thanks a million Dathai
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might be of interest Findlaters
http://www.findlaters.com/chapter5.html
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Michael Fottrell address Swansnest,Coolock,Killbarrack 1850
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
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There seems to be only one Ambrose McCauley born Dublin 1890 and he seems to be Edwards son, i wonder did they later move to 564 North Circular Road,see this soldiers will
http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/reels/sw/1918_22/McCauleyA_E736021.pdf
now his number is given as 199957 DIED France 1st Dec 1918 145 Coy searching on CWGC gives no results but there is an A McGauley died same day Royal Army Medical Corps, Depot transfer to 145 Labour Corps number given as 130046 listed on Terlincthun British Cemetery,Wimille
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/4026297/McGAULEY,%20A
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Strange when you read the Graves Registration reports finals listed under the certificate it has his name spelt right and his proper number 199957.
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1939 register of electors shows the following Edward ,Mary,Peter and Eileen McCauley at 564 North Circular Road,Dublin
http://www.dublinheritage.ie/electoral/advanced.php
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Found Ambrose papers it says he died of influenza and he had a GSW to his hand. I had dismissed these records previously because I wasnt 100% sure if he was related to Peter and the form I had seen said he was not likely to become a good offensive soldier so thought that was the end of his army time but they moved him to the medical corps instead!!
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Register with I Ireland Reaching Out. They have all parishes and members who will you.