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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: angela.mark1 on Monday 28 November 11 13:24 GMT (UK)
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Looking for information on the family of
Margaret Bowen born 1849/50 Queenstown
married Richard Sanders/Saunders moved to England
appox 1881
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There's a possible marriage for Margaret and Richard on the BMD Index - not guaranteed, but both names appear on the same register page :
Richard Sanders
Registration district: Cork
Event type: Marriage
Year: 1870
Volume: 20 / Page: 45
Name: Margaret Bowen
[same index references as Richard]
Neither are common names so I'd say it's quite likely your Margaret & Richard.
A marriage cert should get you started on their trail...
see :
Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Shane
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for reference - here are the family in 1881 in England :
Richd Saunders, age 31, Pte. in the Royal Marines, born Rothwell, Northamptonshire
wife Margaret Saunders, age 32, born Ireland
and children Fanny (9), Margaret (5), and Albert (3)
Saunders household - Hampshire (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X31N-BQ2) (FamilySearch)
Shane
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Many thanks shanew17 for you info and the marriage reffernce number.
I was hoping for info on the Bowen family left in Queenstown/Cobh
I'm new to researching, was about to send for Maragret's birth cert to find the district in Cobh the family lived in, but it seems it's mandatory on the form to put the address which of course i dont have, is there a way around it ?
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see the first post on the 'Ordering Certs' topic I posted above for details on ordering the marriage cert - all you need are the references I posted .. plus your details.
Margaret's birth would be well before the start of civil birth records in Ireland (1864) so no birth cert will be available. You would need to check for church records to locate a possible baptism. The marriage record should give you clues that will help - e.g. denomination of the marriage , Margaret's father's name and occupation, her residence before marriage etc
Shane
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Many thanks again Shane, i have ordered the marriage cert
also i need birth cert for there first born Fanny Sanders/Saunders born Cork 1872 looked in Irish records but cant find a Volume or Page number
is there any where else i could get this info :-*
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I'm not seeing a likely birth for her either.. do any of the later census returns for her give more information ?
The 1911 census is usually quite detailed with places of birth.
Shane
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By the 1911 census Fanny was living in the uk, where born it says
Cork,Queenstown resident.....so i'm at a loss why i cant find her birth on line. Not sure where to go from here.
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I'd go for that marriage anyway.. maybe Fanny was short for something, a pet-name or even her middle name. It's also possible that the birth somehow missed registration or that a name had not been decided when she was registered - so could be registered as just 'female'. Maybe the location of marriage, or witnesses will provide a clue.
Unfortunately Cobh/Queenstown is part of the same registration district as Cork city, so there are lots of possible Sanders/Saunders births around that time.
p.s. I'd allow a few years either side of 1872 - ages are not always accurate on census returns etc.
Shane
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could this be her in the extracted records on FamilySearch ?
name: Elizabeth Saunders
Birthplace: 192, Queenstown, Cork
Birth date: 16 Jul 1871
Parents : Richard Saunders & Margaret Bowen
See : link (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5CX-DSM)
certainly a child of Richard Sanders and Margaret Bowen, born in Queenstown district. If this looks possible then you could order a research birth cert to check father's occupation and residence using these references :
Name: Elizabeth Saunders
Registration district: Cork
Event type: Birth
Year: 1871
Volume: 15 / Page: 192
see : Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)
Shane
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Hi Shane, i do belive you may have cracked it for me :-* Every search i have done for her, has shown her name as Fanny and as it was Richards mother's christian name so sounded most likley.
I dont know where from or who ,in the back of my mind thought her christian names were Fanny Elizabeth but have never found any reference to the name Elizabeth being used.
So sat here kicking myself that i had'nt tried using it !
It's been so kind of you to help as finding Elizabeth is very important to me. :-* :-* :-*
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Hi everyone,
I am having great trouble trying to find the family of Timothy Griffin and Catherine O'Driscoll who lived in the area of Cobh in Cork.
They had 9 children in total, the youngest being my grandmother - Margaret Cecelia Griffin born in 1932.
I know that Timothy worked as a Shipwright - I assume in the port of Cobh.
I am trying to find out more about their other children they had as well as their parents, but they are proving a very elusive bunch!
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am very new to researching my Irish genetics.
Many thanks, Jemilla