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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: x5girl on Saturday 26 November 11 23:18 GMT (UK)
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Could anyone help ,im looking for information for the parents of John Morse b c 1838 camrose/st Ismael/jordanston. I have looked up all the relevant census records and his birth place seems to differ in several of them as Camrose or jordanston??
I know from his marriage certificate in 1863 he was aged 25 years and was resident in the Hayscastle /Mathry area .His father is named as John Morse on the Marriage certificate but I cant seem to trace him, any ideas would be appreciated, thankyou.
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What was father's occupation -and who were witnesses ?
Suz
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Fathers occupation, Labourer, and the witnesses were John Thomas and John Morse. Spouse was Mary Thomas married at thr Parish Church Mathry..
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hi, there is a marriage for john Morse to Mary thomas 2nd quarter
1863 vol 11a page 1009 reg district haverfordwest.
which makes me think that the Morse family in the 1851 census could be yours
john Morse age 54 born 1797
Jane wife 54
James son 26
thomas " 19
john " 13
Charles " 11
Edward " 7
living at 60 shut street haverfordwest
census piece 2478,folio 124
,page 12.
i don't know if you know west wales but camrose haverfordwest etc are all close by each other
if this is the family then john morse born 1797 was born bristol
died reg district haverfordwest 1st quarter 1867 age 70
vol 11a page 519
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hi john's mother jane born 1795 is on the 1871 census living alone age 76 birth place camrose point pembs where as on other census its haverfordwest district.
and living next door is a catherine morse age 64 pauper and her son joshua age 26 a carpenter
also on the 1841 census john morse born 1797 is an army seargant
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there is also this family
1841
St Nicholas pembs
John Morse 40 labourer
Catharine 35
David 8
John 4
Sarah 3
Thomas 9mths
all b in county
HO107 1444 24 41
Suz
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1861 John not at home -but Catherine states "Married"
1861
Barnsley Camrose Pembs
Catherine Morse Head Married 57 labourer's wife St Dogmells Pembs
David son U 26 ag lab St Nicholas pembs
George Thomas at nurse 5 Camrose
Phebe Morse at nurse 3 Camrose
a few doors away is Sarah Morse age 18 working as a servant
RG9 4166 10 13
It is possible Phebe Morse (nurse child) died 1869
wonder who the nurse children belonged to???
It is very difficult to decide which is the correct family
Suz
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Firstly thankyou both for your interest. As you said it is quite a difficult one this...
The "Haverfordwest" family in shut street I did initally think it could have been them but John senior is listed in 1861 as a Chelsea pensioner and before that in an earlier census as an army sergeant , this just dosent seem to sit right with me as his occupation on the marriage cert of his son John in 1863 was a Labourer. The St Nicholas/camrose Morses look interesting ,will have to look into them...
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this could be John (husband of Catherine)
1851
Penyfidir Mathry Pembs
John Morse labourer Married 50 St Lawrence Pembs
working for John Thomas (occ farmer) wife margaret , 4 children .
There are 4 servants in household too
HO107 2079 364 4
1861
Penyfidir Mathry pembs
John Morse labourer Married 61 ag labourer Pembrokeshire
working for John Thomas widower 76 farmer of 393 acres emp 7labs
son John,
4 servants who were Carters
also a Dairy maid, Barn maid, Kitchen maid
John is not described as a servant - burt labourer on both census
He must have been a very trusted employee
RG9 4168 28 9
Suz
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Thanks very much for your help with my enquiry.
I think you were right with John/Catherine and family.
Ive only just looked again at my post and the Witness,s at Johns (son) wedding to Mary along with his father john Morse was a John Thomas.
He was most probably John Thomas who was John Morse seniors employer!! if that makes sense..
Thankyou once again :D
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I can locate no baptism of a John Morse at Camrose, St Ishmaels or Jordanston however I do note the baptism of a John Morse at Johnston in 1840, fuller details are unknown at this time.
Rgds
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