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Title: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: aimeecat on Friday 25 November 11 07:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone
I've been stuck on Mary for a while (decades). I've been trying to find her parents so that I can follow her line. Recently, I finally found this 1884 marriage notice (thank you NLA for Trove!!  :-*):
TEMPLE-FULLER - November 4, at St.Leonards Villa, Bondi, the residence of Mr. Thomas Fuller (the bride's uncle), by the Rev. E.F.Thomas, Percy Augustus Temple to Mary Sophia Fuller, only daughter of Mr. Reuben Fuller of Sydney.

It's only tiny...but its packed with information! I was so excited. But now I am completely stuck with Reuben and Thomas. ???

I've tried NSW BMD and more Trove. I believe Mary inferred that her father was of independent means (but I've heard that before).

Any suggestion of where I should try next?

Thank you in advance

cheers
AimeeCat
Oh, and I have lots on Percy and his line.
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 25 November 11 07:34 GMT (UK)
Australian Birth Index - Mary Fuller, born 1858, Armidale, NSW, parents Reuben Fuller & Mary
Mary Fuller, born 1863, Patricks Plain, NSW, parents Reuben Fuller & Mary
Thomas Fuller, born 1859, Maitland, NSW, to Reuben & Mary
Charlotte Fuller, born 1867, Coonabarabran, to Reuben & Mary
Robert Fuller, born 1861, Tamworth, to Reuben & Mary

Jo  :)
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 25 November 11 07:42 GMT (UK)
A Reuben Fuller born 1839, Parramatta, NSW, to Edward & Elizabeth S.
 
Edward Fuller married Elizabeth S Moore, 1836, district CB, NSW BMD V1836188 20/1836

Jo
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: aimeecat on Friday 25 November 11 07:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jo

Something to get me going again. I'll have to play with that Parramatta Reuben and see where I end up.

I think there must have been more than my Reuben, unless all his progeny died before Mary Sophia married.

Thanks again.
Aimeecat

Sigh, it doesn't look like that Reuben has a brother call Thomas.
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: jomcd967 on Friday 25 November 11 09:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Aimeecat,

There are several public trees for the Reuben Fuller born 1839 to Edward & Elizabeth, on Ancestry and just using Google. An interesting character. While there is a relationship and other children, there are still lots of gaps that make him a possibility for you. He has an uncle Thomas Fuller and an uncle Timothy Thomas Fuller. Both are possibly Mary Sophia's Great uncles. She also has a brother Thomas and this could be a simple error in the article. I would buy the marriage cert or ask a transcription agent in NSW to send you the details on the marriage cert, this would be the best way to fund out what you need.

Good luck, Jo  :)
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: aimeecat on Friday 25 November 11 09:33 GMT (UK)
Great

Thank you so much for you time and help

AimeeCat :)
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: Dundee on Friday 25 November 11 13:51 GMT (UK)
Lord George Bentinck
Arr. Sydney March 1855

Reuben FULLER, 24, labourer, native of Mildenhall, Suffolk, parents John and Elizabeth both living at Suffolk, C of E, reads a little, relative in the colony - brother Thomas FULLER living at Hexham(?)
Mary FULLER, 22, wife of the above, native of Mildenhall, Suffolk, parents Jachariah and Mary RICKWOOD, both living at Suffolk, C of E, reads a little

No children with them.

It appears from census records that Mary's father's name is correct as written. FamilySearch has it as Jaconias and Jeconias.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: aimeecat on Saturday 26 November 11 00:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks Debra

I've just delved a little into this Reuben...he is looking very hopeful. My great grandmother may just have parents yet! ;D

You help is very much appreciated. :-*

Thanks AimeeCat
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: majm on Monday 28 November 11 02:07 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I guess that you have the 1884 mc, and not just the Trove announcement.... and that the 1884 mc has the usual blanks where the bride and groom's parents details should be  :)

Have you tried the methods I outlined in the following thread: 
 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,546609.0.html  and also

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,557757.10.html  see reply #12 for example of blanks on NSW MCs

Fingers crossed your great great grandparents details can be found  ;)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: Walcha72 on Monday 28 November 11 05:34 GMT (UK)
Just to add more confusion...

There is a death of a Mary Sophia TEMPLE in North Sydney in 1943 on the NSW BDMs.  Her parents are listed as John and Sarah.

The following death notice is from the SMH of 5 March 1943:

TEMPLE - March 4, 1943, at her residence, Kurrajong, Carabella Street, Kirribilli, Mary Sophia, widow of the late Percy A. Temple, aged 78 years.

Debbie
Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: majm on Monday 28 November 11 06:24 GMT (UK)
TEMPLE-FULLER - November 4, at St.Leonards Villa, Bondi, the residence of Mr. Thomas Fuller (the bride's uncle), by the Rev. E.F.Thomas, Percy Augustus Temple to Mary Sophia Fuller, only daughter of Mr. Reuben Fuller of Sydney.

From the Sands Alpha Directory 1885 for Sydney (closing date for inclusions was end of Oct 1884)

Thomas FULLER, St Leonards, Fletcher St Wav (JM presumes Waverley)
John TEMPLE, caretaker of Agricultural Ground, Moore Park
T James TEMPLE, house decorator, Alfred St, St L E (JM presumes St Leonards, East)
Rev E F THOMAS, Britannia Terrace, Point Piper Road, Woollahra 

No listing of a Reuben FULLER but .... there are other entries which may (and of course may well NOT) be part of this Fuller family:

Mrs Jane Fuller, fruit grower, Lane Cove Road, North Willoughby  (Lane Cove Road mentioned here is NOT the current Lane Cove Road, but in fact is part of the current Pacific Highway).
Robert Fuller, fruit grower, Blue Gum Creek Road, North Willoughby
Thomas Fuller, fruit grower, Blue Gum Creek Road, North Willoughby

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: majm on Monday 28 November 11 06:43 GMT (UK)
From Sands Suburban Streets Directory 1892

WAVERLEY

Fletcher St (Bondi)

Denham St to Bondi Rd
SCOTT, G G; Pembroke Villa
HENESS, George
FULLER, Thomas; "St Leonards"
LAUCHAME, Jules J; dentist
Royal Acquarium Hotel, William Butler,

Bell View St  (JM presumes a cross street to Fletcher St)

Tramway waiting room and terminus
HAMILTON, Alexander

Fingers crossed this helps,

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: Parents of Mary Sophia FULLER b Armidale 1862
Post by: aimeecat on Friday 02 December 11 11:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks JM,

That's wonderful. 1892 and he's alive and at "St Leonards" and with a street address.
The T James Temple is the father-in-law. (He's where I started eons ago, he's so real to me)

Thank you Debbie,
That John and Sarah have foxed me all this time, I think they were misnomers because when Mary Sophia died there weren't too many people left that would remember her history...not that I'd blame them two world wars and a depression would change your priorities.

Thank you for all your help.
AimeeCat