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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: GreenKiwi on Thursday 24 November 11 09:58 GMT (UK)
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Please could have a lookup if possible. Harriet Wilson born 1893 Middlesex with a father John Wilson. I am trying this first so I can get a birth and or Marrage. Not sure on research in this area. I do not seam to b able to find any free sites to search.
Thanks in adance. Regards
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I am not sure of your train of thought here ...
If Harriet was born 1893, she will not be on 1841 or 1851 census.
Have you looked on FreeBMD for a birth for her?
Do you know whereabouts in Middlesex she was born? It is a large area!
DO you have an occupation for John Wilson?
1901 has numerous Harriet Wilsons born around 1893 with father called John, but none of the H's were born Middlesex
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Opps late here in NZ I ment 1839 sorry
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There is one Harriet with birth 1839 on Family search on Hanover Square?
Thanks for your reply.
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1851 has two possibles
A 10 yr old Harriett bn Pinlico, living in Westminstrer, her Dad John is a pianoforte maker
A 6 yr old HArriet bn Tottenham, living Tottenham, her Dad John is a shoemaker.
Did you get her father's name from her marriage cert? If so what occupation did it give for him) and what address was she married from?
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Hi, She married in 1862 Tasmania OZ. Died in NZ 1922 with father John stated but no mother. She had an uncle Henery Godfrey who had a holiday in Tasmania as a convict but returned to England and after his wife Mary Clarke died he went back to OZ with his family in 1858 and we think Harriet followed them out at some stage?
This is all new to me as we had her as a orphan until we got the contact re the uncle's will she was mentioned in!
Regards Greta
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Is it possible to get detail on this entry?
name: Harriet Wilson
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 2
birthplace: Middlesex
record type: Household
registration district: St George Hanover Square
sub-district: Belgrave
civil parish: St George Hanover Square
county: Middlesex
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Hi There....
Head of that particular household was ......
William / age 40
Elizabeth / age 30
William / age 10
Edward / age 7
Francis / age 4
HARRIET / age 2
Actual address was Ebury Square, North Side, Hanover Square.
JeannieR
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Thanks for the look up, that can not be the one. Maybe the orphan thing is right. I will have to go back to the searching board. Thanks Greta
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Is the Uncle Henry Godfrey (Godfrey being the surname) or Henry Godfrey Wilson?
DO you know if he is an uncle on her father's side or her mothers?
What other clues about him does his will give, other than he has a niece Harriet Wilson? What age was he when he died, and when was that.?
If he was an uncle on her father's side, then it might be worth researching him to see if it leads you to a John.
And dont forget, even if she was orphaned, she would have had parents at one stage!
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Hi, I have not posted for a while to try and narrow down the field.
This is more info from a Cousin.
Harriette Wilson born 1839? Middlesex. Parents Harriette Godfrey( born 1813? Brighton) and William Wilson ( conflict with death cert which had John as father). Living in Bethnal Green and he was a landscape gardner I am not sure if this came off a census or a marraige entry??
Harriette moved to Australai before 1 may 1862 when She married in Tasmania(no parents named on the marrage cert). She is the niece of Henery Godfrey who died in Jan 1862 Tasmaina. This is for certain:)
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Hello There.....
I think this is your family on the 1851 census..... :)
William Wilson / head / age 32 / Pianoforte Maker / born Hull, Yorkshire
Harriett Wilson / wife / age 38 / born Brighton, Sussex
HARRIETT Wilson / daughter / age 14 / born Stepney, Middlesex
Address was
9 Wellington Street, Bethnal Green
Piece 1540 / Folio 567 / page 32
Best Wishes
JeannieR
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William Wilson / head / age 32 / Pianoforte Maker / born Hull, Yorkshire
Harriett Wilson / wife / age 38 / born Brighton, Sussex
HARRIETT Wilson / daughter / age 14 / born Stepney, Middlesex
Address was
9 Wellington Street, Bethnal Green
Piece 1540 / Folio 567 / page 32
This looks like the family on 1841c HO107; Piece 665; Book: 8; Civil Parish: St Mary Islington West Middlesex; ED: 24; Folio: 31; Page: 8
Putney St., Islington
Wm Wilson 29 occ Piano m
Harrt 29
Harriot 4
Only Harriot born in this county
Harriette Wilson born 1839? Middlesex.
Parents Harriette Godfrey( born 1813? Brighton) and
William Wilson ( conflict with death cert which had John as father).
Living in Bethnal Green he was a landscape gardner I am not sure if this came off a census or a marraige entry??
There's another Harriet with parents William & Harriet on the 1841c but occupation again is different & Harriet Jnr. born Surrey :(
HO107; Piece 1083; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Christchurch; County: Surrey; ED: 13; Folio: 15; Page: 22
20 Broad Wall Christchurch Southwark
Willm Wilson 25 ‘N’ occ. Victualler
Harriet 25 ‘N’
Harriet 6 months ‘Y’
Wm & Harriet noted as not born in this county
Can't place them on the 1851 census but this looks as if it's Harriet with her grandmother in 1861
1861 RG9; Piece: 205; Folio: 87; Page: 12
65 Lowes White Street
Hetty Isabella Wilson Widow 72 St Martin in the Field Middx occ License Victualler
Harriet Wilson granddaughter 20 (1841) Christchurch Surrey Assistant
William g/son 18 Christchurch Cooper
Emma g/dau 16 Shoreditch Middx Assistant
Ann Wilson servant widow 72 Cook plus 4 other servants
Harriette moved to Australai before 1 may 1862 when She married in Tasmania
(no parents named on the marrage cert).
She is the niece of Henry Godfrey who died in Jan 1862 Tasmaina. This is for certain:)
John William Jeffries 1838
Harriet Wilson 1839
Marriage Date: 01 May 1862 Westbury, Tasmania, Australia
Both single (familysearch)
Uncle Henery Godfrey who had a holiday in Tasmania as a convict but returned to England after his wife Mary Clarke died
This looks to be Uncle Henry's marriage (family search)
Henry Godferry 1814
Mary Clarke 1819
Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1843 Tasmania,Australia
Henry Godfrey
Vessel: Georgiana
Convicted Date: 17 May 1832 Voyage Date: 28 Sep 1832
Colony: Van Dieman's Land Place of Conviction: Middlesex, England
Have you seen this
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18320517-17-defend364&div=t18320517-17#highlight
he went back to OZ with his family in 1858 and we think Harriet followed them out at some stage?
Have you a date as to when Henry Godfrey and his family travelled back to Tasmania
Have you found Harriet Wilson on any passenger lists?
Where there any witnesses to Harriet's marriage?
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Thanks for all the help, But I think we will have to eliminant some of those. The rest is great.
Have you a date as to when Henry Godfrey and his family travelled back to Tasmania
I don't know when she moved to Tasmania. But I think Henry Godfrey could be meet her in London in middle of 1850s. After Henry's wife's death, Henry and his children moved back to Tasmania in 1858. So Harriet might be moved after 1858 to Tasmania to join them.
to work for Henry at the Horse and Jockey Launceston, other note is when she was 14? 1852?
Have you found Harriet Wilson on any passenger lists?
No I am still trying to find where to look for this.
Where there any witnesses to Harriet's marriage?
Her witnesses were Horatio Nelson Godfrey (my great great grandfather) and his sister, Mary Louisa Godfrey so they should be Harriet's cousins. Another one was Charles Harris that is unknown to me. -Steven.
So this messes up the census data if she was gone before 1861. Maybe I will have to try and find some orphanage records are these on the census?
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Hi
Henry & family returned to england in 1854.Mary his wife died in england some time between 1854 and his return to Tasmania in 1858..
Harriet returned to Tasmania in 1861..
Harriet married John william jeffries in westbury tasmania in 1862.. their daughter Harriet was born in Melbourne in 1863... John, harriet and family moved to NZ in 1864 on the boat swiftsure. John having joined the 4th Waikato Militia.. several more children were born in NZ...
hope that helps.. anything more ..?? email *
baemego
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Thanks, I need to write out all info I have and try and find were to look next, there is four of us working on Harriett.