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Title: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:04 GMT (UK)
Hi can anyone help me please?

My uncles memory is getting abit confused ( he is 85) and well stumbling upon a bit of dead end. Heres what i have  and what i know>

My Uncle
John Kenneth Withall
Married 16th July 1979 to Elizabeth Shirley Ross (was previously married and had a son, see below)
Born 30/06/1926 and still alive

His father> (Ealing, London)
Herbert Ernest Withall
B around 26 Jan 1897
D 1987
Job Police Officer

His Mother
Elsie Louise Cross
B 1896
D 1986 (around 5 days before her 90th)

His son
Alan John Withall
B 1955
D 1981 (possibly walsall and possibly 1976 of suicide)
Job Police officer

Appreciate any help
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:14 GMT (UK)
Hi thesludge

RootsChat has a policy of not posting details of anyone who may be living/recently deceased -to avoid identity theft etc

So if anyone has that kind of info it should be passed using the PM facility

What type of information are you looking for ?

Do you want to go further back?
or something else?


Suz
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:16 GMT (UK)
Oh sorry Suzard

I simply canot find anything to tie in as it were for Elsie Louise Cross in terms of her mother or father.
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:20 GMT (UK)
I'll look for Elsie

These registrations may be a start with Herbert

Birth reg
Herbert Ernest Withall
Mar qtr 1897
Bridge
Kent
2a 846

Death reg
Herbert Ernest Withall
born 29 Jan 1897
death reg Oct 1989
age 92
Ealing
12 210

Is this Herbert???


Suz
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:28 GMT (UK)
yes  ;D

I had that already.

I belive his father MAY be Herbert named after him.

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28434089/family
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:32 GMT (UK)
Do you have Herbert and Elsie's marriage cert??

Wondered if Elsie had been married previously??

Suz
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:33 GMT (UK)
Do you have Herbert and Elsie's marriage cert??

Wondered if Elsie had been married previously??

Suz

I do not as yet, and uncle cannot lay his hands on it.

I wondered that too.......i am also wondering if it could be the reverse name ie Louise Elsie Cross???
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:42 GMT (UK)
Great minds think alike LOL!!!

I have just been looking for Louise Elsie , too!!!

On birth reg she gives maiden name as Cross - wonder if she told little porkies about her age???

Suz
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: suzard on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:57 GMT (UK)
It looks pretty conclusive that Herbert Ernest Withall's parents were Herbert and Emma

1901
Upstreet
Blean Kent
Herbert Withall Head M 31 Constable Kent Constabulary Piccadilly London
Emma wife 29 Whistable Kent
HERBERT son 4 Chartham Kent
Thomas son 2 Chartham
Edith daughter 1 Chartham
RG13 797 6 4


it seems the children had middle names -but they were not entered in 1901
Herbert Ernest, Thomas Richard and Edith Florence

Marriage reg
Jun qtr 1896
Blean
on same page
Herbert Withall
Emma Harman
2a 1548

now back to looking for Elsie

Suz
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Thursday 24 November 11 12:08 GMT (UK)
That information is bang on. Thank you. I know this due to him being an officer.
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: chrisharman on Sunday 27 November 11 16:30 GMT (UK)
hi are you alison?
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: chrisharman on Sunday 04 December 11 16:33 GMT (UK)
hi i have contact with an alison martin.she is alfred withalls great grandaughter.i am related to emma harman.could you let me know your email so you can connect.best regards chris
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: suzard on Sunday 04 December 11 17:50 GMT (UK)
Hello and welcome to RootsChat

We do not post e mail addresses on the public boards -but once you have made 3 posts you can use the PM facility and pass that information privately.

So if you just reply to this post then you can PM thesludge

Suz
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: chrisharman on Monday 05 December 11 12:15 GMT (UK)
hi thanks.hopefully i can bring them together.
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Monday 05 December 11 16:19 GMT (UK)
apologies for delay in reply. I have been away on business in South Africa. That is great news. I have PM you my email address.
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Monday 21 May 12 17:11 BST (UK)
can you please ask her to get back in touch with me please? I lost all my details on my pc a few weeks ago.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: chrisharman on Tuesday 22 May 12 20:14 BST (UK)
done.
Title: Re: Withall/Cross Look up
Post by: thesludge on Friday 22 June 12 16:47 BST (UK)
not heard anything from her yet  ???