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Title: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 27 December 10 18:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,
we would be very grateful for any links or information re our family .... Sherriff.
Most we know of are based in Rhyl north Wales, but we think we have connections with others in Gloucestershire, south Wales.

Most recent 'link' was my father Sidney William Sherriff, photographer in Rhyl, Korea and WW2 RAC. Son of Sidney Sherriff RSM RWF, India, France, Dunkirk taken POW. My uncles were Alfred, Fred and Donald & aunt Renie - all now gone.

Some distant relationship with RC Sherriff?

Any info appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 27 December 10 19:04 GMT (UK)
hi,,do you have any years of birth?  ;)
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 27 December 10 19:18 GMT (UK)
Hi again. Many thanks.
Sadly only info I have is Sidney William B 1921. D 1984.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 27 December 10 19:29 GMT (UK)
i cannot see any births for a sydney william sherriff in 1921? 
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: cath151 on Monday 27 December 10 19:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Sidney Williams death reg gives birth date 1 Jan 1921.
He and his brother Donald Victor seem to have been abroad according to the GRO Army Birth Indices.
Sidney W Sherriff  Lucknow  1921  ref 394
Donald Victor Sheriff  Multan?  1925 ref 327
No maiden name of mother given .

Best wishes
Cathy
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 27 December 10 20:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks.
That seems to fit well with 'speculation'.
We knew it was India, but not where.

Mother was named Lillian. Sid & Don from second marriage to Sidney who was a soldier. Lillian had been married to a soldier who died in India. her maiden name is unknown, but I now have much more to go on.

Thankyou again.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 27 December 10 20:28 GMT (UK)
 the sydney who was a soldier in india,,,,,there is a record of a sidney h sherriff  of the gloucester regiment,,,,ring any bells?
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 27 December 10 21:10 GMT (UK)
Hi.
We have no idea of Sidney 'senior's' middle name. But, so far as we know he was staunch RWF from WW1 (sgt) to his D in 1954.

Reckon H must be from a different Sherriff line.

My grandfather's Army no was 4179131

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: gortonboy on Monday 27 December 10 21:34 GMT (UK)
there is a marriage in west hackney parish church in 1919

sydney sherriff   bachelor age 23  a soldier   15 shakespeare rd  father william a baker

lily smith age 30  a widow  20 imperial avenue,victoria park  father william huslin? a carman

could this be lillian who was widowed?  ;)
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 27 December 10 22:39 GMT (UK)
Cannot find an emoticon for jaw dropping!    :-)

Lilly Huslin married to a Smith = sons Fred & Alfred Smith = my father's older 'step' brothers.

Lilly came (we are told) from Huguenot stock -- where the lilly is their religious symbol (later Maltese Cross). Grandfather was a silversmith.

My grandfather enlisted in Highbury WW1 and we believe lived there. It seriously looks like you have opened up a new parallel line of Sherriffs - probably relating to GG Grandfather's brother's line.

Mega thanks. I will ask around the family to see what I can enhance.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 28 December 10 12:21 GMT (UK)
hi,,i had put william as marrying lily,,,it was sidney,,,i have edited my post,,,,,, ;)
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Tuesday 28 December 10 16:46 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Many thanks. Now it all really fits together! One family line (we know of) 5 brothers in all. Fitting a photo of 4 estimated to be 1919 with their father.

Thanks again  :)

Andy
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 29 December 10 21:12 GMT (UK)
Hiya Andy...Sheriff from Rhyl area....there are lots in the South Liverpool area which is about 45 miles away...I have mates named Sheriff..
from when freebmd begins you will find literally hundreds in Liverpool /West Derby (which is an area of Liverpool) and Toxteth Park (also Liverpool)....check Lan-opc as well.....allan ;)
ADDED..the first record on Lan-opc is
21st October 1792
babtism of Margaret Sheriff -parents Peter and Elizabeth
at St Peter, Liverpool,21st October 1792
born 23rd Sept 1792
fathers occupation Joiner
abode Pitt Street....which is in Toxteth....don`t want to lead you astray, but there may be a connection with the Rhyl /Liverpool Sheriff family....allan :)
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Sunday 02 January 11 14:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Allan,

Many thanks for looking that one up. Only querie I would have is that our Sherriff is spelt with 2 r's.

However, I will look to see if there are links.

Cheers, Andy.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: JaneyBaker on Saturday 19 February 11 19:17 GMT (UK)
Yes I have information and living relatives please blog me back or email (*)

My grandmother was Alice Jane Sherriff, lived at 15 Shakespear Road, and was the only sister to Sydney Sherriff. We have letters written by Sydney while he was a prisoner of war at Stalag 8B.

My mother Joyce, Alice Jane's daughter, who turned 85 last week, is very keen to be in touch as she has many stories and information as well as memories to share with you.

I look forward to speaking to you soon.

Kind Regards,

Jane

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Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 21 February 11 10:48 GMT (UK)
Hi  Jane,

Big thanks for finding us!

We had no idea that he had a sister!!! Only info was a picture of himself with his 3 brothers & father.

My email is contact (*)

Sorry to have to use email at this time. I think it will be easiest as I am rarely available by phone due to odd working practices - and that wey we both have easy written records / info.

Look forward to talking with you.

Andy Sherriff.

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Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: garstonite on Monday 21 February 11 11:43 GMT (UK)
Andy...take your e-mail off your post mate,   it`s not advised for security reasons.....allan ;)
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: JaneyBaker on Monday 21 February 11 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Andy,

Just to let you know you have email, with further family information.

I'm glad you sent your email address but, mine was removed when I posted it for your over the weekend, so this must be a general rule of the site and good advice from your friend.

Look forward to speaking to you soon.

Kind regards,

Jane.
Title: newbie seeks Sherriff family
Post by: Kiteflyer on Wednesday 23 November 11 10:27 GMT (UK)
Have news for Longbow and Jane, we are related and have memories of visiting Petherton Road to see Aunt Alice.  Also the photo of the 4 brothers with Grandfather William and copy of Sydney's Citation.

Kiteflyer
Title: Re: newbie seeks Sherriff family
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 23 November 11 10:52 GMT (UK)
Kiteflyer,
 It might be best if you put your information on the original thread because all replies to that thread will be notified to original posters.

Click on this link which will take you to the Sherriff thread, then scroll down to the bottom and click on "reply".

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,503257.msg3715155.html#msg3715155 merged with existing topic now
Once you have made three posts on this site you can then send a Personal Message to a rootschatter.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 23 November 11 12:05 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat, kiteflyer. I've merged your post with the existing thread but please remember not to post personal details online here- once you've made 3 posts you'll be able to use PM system.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: JaneyBaker on Sunday 27 November 11 17:36 GMT (UK)
Dear Kiteflyer,

We may well be related, Aunt Alice you mention may well have been my grandmother.

Do you remember any other names and who was it that visited Petherton Road.

Many thanks,
Jane Baker
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: Kiteflyer on Monday 28 November 11 10:49 GMT (UK)
Hello Janey.
 My Dad was Alice's brother Thomas ,Mum was Florence (Floss)and my sister Jean and I (Ted) used to go with them to see Aunt Alice at 100 Petherton Rd,
 Names that I recall were Joan and Joyce, Family name of Weed.
 When we were young ,we lived at Hornsey Rise N.19 and Dad was a Postman.
  I have an old photo of Tom,Sid,Alice and Annie Parrish taken around 1904 which I am working on at the present time.
     Regards,    Ted.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Tuesday 29 November 11 18:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone.

My thanks to the Moderators for deleting email addresses & keeping us secure.  ;)

And, my huge apologies for not keeping in touch. Its been a hectic and at times difficult few months + major pc crash + lost logons etc. I was'nt ignoring  people. But still sorry.

Janey, Many thanks for the email, I will reply ASAP.

Hi Ted, great to hear from you. its amazing how we are all linking together. As soon as you are able to PM me, & can therefore give me your email (securely), I will send you a document outliming all I know about Sidney. His wife was Lilly - from Hoxton - a milliner and descended from Heuganots - but that is much of what I know about her - apart from very helpful additional info from people on this forum.

Sidney had 2 sons - Sidney (my father) and Donald .... + 2 from Lilly's first marriage - Fred, Alfred +Renie her daughter -- all originally surnamed Smith. All are now deceased.

Of interest might be your searching Google for "RSM Sherriff Lamsdorf". After placing a few bits of information on various sites, other people have added even more info. OK this is just re the RSM, but hopefully some links may arise.

Just before his death, myslef & our daughter visited the camp band leader Jimmy Howe. A fascinating guy. Much on the web about him too.

All the best for the time being, Andy.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: Kiteflyer on Tuesday 29 November 11 22:19 GMT (UK)
 Hi, Janey and Longbow.
 Thanks for your replies. I thought you might like to see this photo named on the back,as Tom,Sid, Alice and Annie Parrish. Taken aprox. 1905. My guess is that Tom is at the back, next to Annie Parrish.
 Janey,I will phone you soon.
 Regards to both.   Ted.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: Kiteflyer on Monday 05 December 11 16:29 GMT (UK)
Dear Janey and Andy(Longbow)
 Attached photo is of William Sherriff and sons. I believe that Thomas is back left and Sid is back right.   Is this the same one that you have? Andy. There is a private message left for you,Andy.
     Take care,both.   Ted.



Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: longbow on Monday 05 December 11 16:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ted :-)
I have a copy of that one too.
Have replied to your PM.
Andy.
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: chrissyd on Wednesday 20 August 14 21:23 BST (UK)
I realise that this thread is now several years old but I'm hoping that some of those who have been participating are still keeping tabs on it.

I am also descended from the same Sherriff family - my grandfather, Henry, is the brother standing between Tom and Sid in the photo which Kiteflyer posted!

I have a copy of this photo too (although not in such good condition!), it was given to me by my second cousin Fred who is the grandson of the fourth brother, Bill, who is sitting alongside father William in the photo.

There were two other brothers, by the way, who aren't in the photo - Arthur (Art) and Herbert (Bert).

Keeping my fingers crossed that the rest of the Sherriff clan are still reading this!

Chris
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: Longbow)) on Monday 02 May 22 13:43 BST (UK)
Hi chris syd, we are indeed relatives. Thankyou for getting in touch.
As you see, I don't post at all as often as I should do.
Info you gave - I had no idea re the other brothers. Thankyou.
I have set up Fb pages for
Dad = https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=sidney%20william%20sherriff
Grandfather = https://www.facebook.com/Regimental-Sergeant-Major-Sydney-Sherriff-1753471221390264/?fref=nf
I hope these may be of interest.
Also, I will fwd your posting to 2 cousins who have family history interests.
I hope I can provide you with other info.
Big cheers, Andy
Title: Re: Sherriff family. Any info please?
Post by: sarah on Monday 02 May 22 14:01 BST (UK)
Hi Andy,

There was no need to register again, have you changed email address for your original profile ?

Regards

Sarah