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Title: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: samsauntie on Saturday 19 November 11 10:22 GMT (UK)
I have found this lovely picture in a local antique shop. Would it please be possible to restore it to its former glory? A sepia version and if possible colour. It is beyond my capabilities.

It would be great to reunite the picture with a family member. On the back it says

Dorothy aged 8
Nora aged 4
Violet nearly 3
Sept 1891

If anyone has the time and the knowhow to track down who they are it may be possible to find the family.

Thank you

sa
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: hoobaloo on Saturday 19 November 11 12:14 GMT (UK)
Just a little clean, mainly facial features, not too OTT, John
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: japeflakes on Saturday 19 November 11 13:07 GMT (UK)
Another go for you:
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: rsinbad on Saturday 19 November 11 13:28 GMT (UK)
Roy
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pastmagic on Saturday 19 November 11 13:49 GMT (UK)
Deleted - ages on census i found don't add up.
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Niksmum on Saturday 19 November 11 14:28 GMT (UK)
One from me as well

Irene
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pastmagic on Saturday 19 November 11 15:05 GMT (UK)
1891 RG12/526/ 30/ 24
This is the one I deleted earlier - problem is one of the ages are out, but I can't find an exact match for three girls of those ages:

Walter W Burnett 44 26 Tyrone Rd Lewisham, Occ Steamship Owner & Sugar Brooker , b. Forest hill - Can't find anyone in Brighton, so if its them, holiday pic?
Wife Fanny L Burnett 45
Children:
Henry W Burnett   20
Olive M Burnett   18
Edgar W Burnett   16
Frank N Burnett   12
Constance L Burnett   11
Dorothy E Burnett   9
Violet A Burnett   6
Nora C Burnett   4

Servants
Esther Claydon   30
Margaret S Kinner   25
Emma Freestone   19

Maybe someone else can find a closer match? - Lovely photo! PM
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pastmagic on Saturday 19 November 11 15:31 GMT (UK)
Photographer's details:

 
In 1891 Percy Cocker Mitchell, a "photo-artist", acquired the studio of A. Debenham & Co. at 127 Western Road, Brighton, near the junction with Montpelier Road. During the 1890s Mitchell seems to have changed his name to Percy C. Mora, and the studio became Mora's "Electric Light Studio". Kelly's 1906 Brighton Directory has separate entries at 127 Western Road for P. C. Mora, photographer, and P. Mitchell, but there can be little doubt that they were one and the same person. A Mrs Mitchell lived at 128 Western Road.
In 1902 the Western Road studio was trading under the name Mora Ltd. as was a new studio that had opened at 45a London Road. By 1908 a new studio calling itself Mora Ltd. had begun operating at 81a St James Street. The St James studio lasted only until about 1913, but its two predecessors survived long into the inter-war period. The London Road studio closed in about 1933, but the original Western Road studio was still operating in 1936-37. By 1939-40, however, it had been replaced by a cake shop!
Mora Ltd. did not confine its operations to Brighton. In 1901 the firm set up a studio at Southsea in Hampshire (at 21 Elm Grove), under the proprietorship of Harry Smith.

Mora Ltd. specialised in studio photography, including postcard portraits and cabinets. They do not appear to have done much outside work, except group photographs.

From: http://www.sussexpostcards.info/publishers.php?PubID=366
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Niksmum on Saturday 19 November 11 18:09 GMT (UK)
one with color

Irene
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: samsauntie on Saturday 19 November 11 22:39 GMT (UK)
My grateful thanks go to

hoobaloo
japeflakes
Roy
Irene

All of the restores are great. It is very kind of you to restore and colour the children.

Also, many thanks to pastmagic. You have done a wonderful job. Although the date may be out, the names are all there in the same family. Very good detective work. Thank you very much

sa
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pastmagic on Saturday 19 November 11 22:52 GMT (UK)
I am just wondering if the little blonde girl is a cousin or a friend, in which case I don't think any amount of detective work would work! Violet I can find in aboarding school in1901, and also the parents, but no sighting of Nora or Dorothy.  Wonder if its possible to take this further? It would need the best brains on rootschat to really work it out....
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: saddles on Sunday 20 November 11 04:59 GMT (UK)
Hi SA......A colour interpretation from me and by the way its a beautiful photo and good luck in finding the ID of the family.

Carolyn  :)
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: samsauntie on Sunday 20 November 11 10:45 GMT (UK)
You may be right Pastmagic. For me, your brains are top class. An excellent piece of detective work which I would not have been able to do. Thank you very much. Your theory about cousins could be correct. What a shame that surnames are not on the back of the photo. Just first names and ages. The ages of course could be guesses by whoever wrote the details down. Your comment about going to Brighton on holiday is a good one. Thanks again

My grateful thanks also go to Carolyn for a beautiful colour version of the photo. Yes, it is beautiful, I could not leave it in the shop especially as it was only 50p. Would love to find the family that it belongs to. Will think about how to carry on trying to do that. Thank you very much.

sa
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pastmagic on Sunday 20 November 11 13:00 GMT (UK)
1901 England Census
Now Living at "The Glebe" Civ.  Parish Sutton, Church Parish Christchurch, Surrey.
Violet I have found in a boarding school, but where are Dorothy and Nora?
RG 22/580/6/4
Walter Burnett   54 Grocer, Sugar merchant and Ship owner
Fanny Burnett   54
Henry Burnett   30 Grocer and Sugar Merchant
Olive Burnett   28
Frank Burnett   22 Stockbroker's clerk
Melanie Wing   38 Visitor
Servants are:
Lucy Short   44
Cicily Short   13
Alas, I don't have access to the 1911to see what happens next....! PM

Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 November 11 15:27 GMT (UK)
1901 Census
Burndell House,
Yapton, Sussex
RG13/964/36/26
Isaac H H GOSSETT, 47, Head, Mar, Living on Own Means, born Calcutta, India
Louisa, 43, Wife, Mar, born Brighton, Sussex
DOROTHY, 19, Daug, Unm, born Chiswick, Middlesex
NORAH, 13, Daug, born Farringdon, Hampshire
VIOLET E, 12, Daug, born Farringdon, Hampshire
Eric F, 8, Son, Scholar, born Farringdon, Hampshire
Annie SKESTES, 14, Servant, Housemaid, born Felpham, Sussex

Need address checked please.

Trish :)
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pels. on Sunday 20 November 11 15:44 GMT (UK)


1901 Census
Burndell House?,

Need address checked please.


It does say Burndell House, Trish

Pels.
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 November 11 15:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks Pels :)

On the 1891 Census the Girls are aged 7/3/2. As the Census was taken 05 April 1891 they may have had Birthdays before Sept 1891 :)
1891 Daddy is under his Second name Herbert and they are in Farringdon, Hampshire under GOSSET.
RG12/751/41/11

Isaac Herbert H GOSSET Marriage Reg, Sept 1879, Steyning, 2b 488
On the same page is Louisa MORGAN

Trish :)
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: Pels. on Sunday 20 November 11 15:51 GMT (UK)



Good work from everyone !  :) :)

The road is still there in Yapton :

Click here for Burndell Road, Yapton (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Burndell+Road,+Yapton&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4875ae48d7e34123:0xa3d4ef2345768eed,Burndell+Rd,+Yapton,+West+Sussex&gl=uk&ei=iyDJTtvfLYqh8QOj3MSCAQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q8gEwAA)

Pels.
Title: Re: ID for the family and colour please
Post by: samsauntie on Monday 21 November 11 21:19 GMT (UK)
I agree with Pels, good work, in fact excellent work.

Thank you very much Trish.

A hard job to track them down especially with no surname to start with.

Thanks for the link Pels.

Will try to find the family now

sa