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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: violet on Thursday 17 November 11 21:36 GMT (UK)
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Is there anyway of finding out where these people came from.
From the list: Oliver McClea Donegal 14433. Trying to trace him to a townland.
Thank you
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the Flax Growers list is a rather limited listing of Irish flax growers who were awarded spinning wheels for growing flax, in order to boost the linen industry, in 1796. All that is Included is the name of the grower, the home civil parish and the county. No home townland is given.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0h83/
Griffith's Valuation, another census substitute, lists the McCrea's leesors and leassees in Donegal c.60 years later.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ has a good deal of info and its a good place to check.
The Proni Wills Callendar has 200+ Wills for McCrea, 15 of which are from Donegal.
applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearchResults.aspx
So a bit of info about him, his children, marriage etc might make it easier to identify him.
PM
Have you any more info on Oliver?
Added later - see I have misread the surname - but have a look at GV and PRONI anyway, PM
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Hi
I am trying to trace the Mcclay/McClea family from Trumman East.
Working backwards
According to the GV there were four Mcclays at Trumman East
Joseph born c1814 House & Land 32 acres
John McClay House & Land 79 Acres
Adam House, Land & Flax Mill 28 acres
Andrew with Land and offices 10 acres
James with land and offices 15 acres
Church Records for Trumman East/Trumman and Cool which was an area of Trumman prior to GV
Adam and Jane would appear to have three sons Andrew,John, and James all born c1805/1822 There are daughters as well
Adam & Mary had a son who died c1830
Henry & Margaret had a daughter c1813 Henry died prior to the GV
Joseph had a son Robert. Joseph was born c1814 Robert took over Josephs farm.
The only common bond is Oliver possible birth 1750 and Sarah of Trumman East who had children in 1785 but can only find daughters.
As I am sure you are all aware records are patchy.
Thought and suggestions would be helpful
Pat
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Is the following any use to you? It's late here and I'm tired, so not quite following connections between Oliver and Trumman East etc., McLay/Mclea.
G10483|McCleay [McClay/McCleary]|Andrew|Drumhome|Donegal|1 wheel.
G14433|McClea|Oliver|Stranorlar|Donegal|1 wheel.
You originally asked for Oliver who was in the Flax in the parish of Stranorlar, but the above Andrew is in the Parish of drumhome which contains Trumman East.
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Hi
Thank you for your reply.
Can you please tell me how you found out that Andrew was in Drumhome and Oliver was in Stranloar. I can only get Donegal.
Benn trying to break down this wall for years.
Many Thanks
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Go to
http://www.failteromhat.com/flax1796.php
Just type in lea for surname and click Donegal for county. Scroll down and you will see them both.
I use another database too, which I actually thought you also had, when I saw the number at side of Olivers name.
I'm curious as to where you got the Flax entries without the parishes :)
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Hi
I typed in Flax Growers List and thats what I got. Not very helpful in the scheme of things. Thank you for the site you in your reply.
Trying to piece together a very difficult family as there seem to be a lot of females and not many males in the family.
Regards
Pat.
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McClay, Trumman East, County Donegal list on census 1901 and 1911 also living at Trumman West, Trumman East will be the name of the town land.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie
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If you go to
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/Freeholders/default.aspx
and type in Mcclay , you will see an entry for Oliver in Drumbo, Stranorlar.
I realise that you are unsure if there is any connection to Oliver, but perhaps worth a look and to file for future reference.
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Hi Pat,
I have been following this discussion with interest as my aunt married into your McClay family as you know.
You might be on to something with the Stranorlar connection - you probably have this information but I have 9 McClay/McCleas in the 1796 spinningwheel Premium Entitlements List and Oliver, John and Robert are all in Stranorlar. The rest are farther up the county but an Andrew McClay in the Laghy tree is supposed to have come 'through the gap' as a bounty hunter. For the benefit of those unfamiliar with Donegal 'through the gap' refers to the Barnes Mor mountain which separates the Letterkenny area from the Donegal Town area of the county, and anyone coming from Stranorlar to Laghy would certainly have come 'through the gap'!! What sort of bounty he would have been hunting I have no idea.
I have 37 pages of McClays - I will keep digging and post if I find anything new.
Regards,
Carol
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Hi Carol
Thanks for the info. I am trying to find a father for Joseph McClay c1814, date obtained from death cert so is probably incorrect.
Any joy with your Kilpatrick/Kirkpatrick/Kirpatrick from Donegal?
Regards
Pat
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Hi Pat,
I have a Joseph McClay c 1836 Drumholm married Margaret Freeborn.
His parents were James McClay (1812) and Rebecca Stewart.
Grandparents would have been Andrew McClay (c1785) and Esther Thompson.
Could this be him?
I ground to a halt on the Kilpatricks etc. as it became just too complicated without original records. There is definitely a Kilpatrick/Thompson/McVitty connection in Ballintra as I know that when Robert McVitty married Isabella Kilpatrick they lodged with her aunt Thompson in Ballintra and dad always said Rex Kilpatrick who owned the mill was 'family'.
Regards,
Carol
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Sorry, Pat, I dont know what i was thinking - thats no use to you at all!! Wrong generation - will look again!!
Carol
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Hi Carol
I to was told that the fella who owned the Mill at Rah was "family" unfortunately the man that told me that has died.
I was also told that we were related to the Kirkpatricks of Tullywee.
Unfortunately there is little to prove real connections from the "flax growers list"
Going back to the McClays of Trumman I feel sure that as they all lived in that townland they must have been related. It would appear that Adam had the biggest holding and a Flax mill so Joseph could have been his brother.
I have just found another Robert McClay a son of Adam McClay of Trumman. Robert claims to be a trader on his marriage certificate to Jane Doherty in 1871. Yet there is no evidence that I can find of his birth. Neither can I find any evidence of a birth of my Robert McClay son of Joseph.
So we will have go on looking perhaps on day!!!!!!!!
Regards
Pat