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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Bedfordshire => England => Bedfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: kazfoster on Monday 14 November 11 21:50 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
I have the marriage of a Kezia King to Albert Woombell in Luton in 1897. She was born in Luton in 1877.
He then remarries in 1905.
According to one family tree she died in 1904, but I can find no trace of this. It could have been in Luton or in Hampshire or even London. He seems to move around a lot!
if anyone can help I'd be grateful
thanks
Karen
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hi,, her death is registered in Luton 1904 ;)
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Hi Gortonboy
Do you know the ref number please?
KF
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Hi Gorton Boy is off line, no wonder you could not locate it!
Woom_ell Ke(sz)ia aged 27 Luton Sept 1904 3b 227
Keyboard86
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thanks
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Keyboard86
found it now - see what you mean!!! He was a busy boy - three marriages in as many towns!!!
Chat soon
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does anyone have information on ivy Gladys woombells mothers maiden name and father
she was born in luton 1905 I think she married eric a maltby
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Welcome to Rootschat
Her birth was registered in Luton in the Dec quarter 1905 vol 3b page 360 (per www.freebmd.org.uk). If you purchase her birth cert at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ you'll get her parents' names, including her mother's maiden name.
In 1911 she appears to have been living in Luton in the family of W.F.G.Peck 48 b Luton:
J.W.Woombell boarder 40 Married 14 years, 4 children, 3 living, Carman, b Nottingham
Lilly Woombell boarder 13 b Luton
Glaids Woombell boarder 5 b Luton
Winnie Woombell 2 1/2 b Luton
Is JW connected to Albert living in Luton in 1901?
Albert Woombell head marr 24 Coal hawker b Nottingham
Kezia Woombell wife 24 b Luton
And is this JW living in St Pancras in 1901?
John Woombell head marr 30 Coachman b Nottingham
Elizabeth Woombell wife 25 b Luton
If so, where's Lily age 3? What appears to be her birth was registered in Luton in the March quarter 1898 as Edith Lilian L Woombell.
There's a marriage in Luton in the June quarter 1897 where two of the parties on the page are John Webster Woombell and Edith Elizabeth Young. But there are quite a few inconsistencies so to be on the safe side I would still order Ivy's birth certificate
David
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thanks david my mums mother was edith l l wombell born in luton 1897 ive seen birth cert for edith
her dad is john Webster woombell born 1872 married 1897 in lutonto edith Elizabeth young. my mothers mother married in 1915 to Arthur f kelby in luton they were divorced date not known she later had 5 children in Colchester none to arhur kelby 3 kids to a chap called taylor then 2 to a john kennedy my grandfather my mother is Sheila kennedy born in 1936 in Colchester john kennedy was aglasgow man in the black watch regiment edith and john moved to Glasgow in 1937 my granny kennedy[edith woombell] died in 1967 edith married john kennedy in Glasgow 1938 john kennedy gave all the kids his name.do you think ivy Gladys woombell born in luton 1905 is the same girl who marries eric a maltby in 1925 and is my grandmothers sister
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It looks as though they were sisters.
Go to here (the official 1911 census) http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
Select advanced search
Put Woombell in the surname box
County Bedfordshire
Other members of household, put first name Lilly
search
this will bring up others in the household with Lilly (Edith L L )
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Hi Stephen
Yes, I'm confident that Edith Lilian and Ivy Gladys were sisters and that Ivy Gladys married Eric Maltby. Whilst the sisters seemed to use their middle names rather than their first names I'm sure they were the family in 1911 that I gave you details of in my earlier message, father JW, Lilly and Glaids (sic).
JW and Arthur both living in Luton at various times and both born in Nottingham were brothers.
David
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thanks silvery looked at cencus 1911 looks like Gladys is edith Lillian l woombells sister no mention of wife on cencus any idea why this could be. Frederick Alfred woombell born1904 luton died 1907 luton could be a brother on cencus it says 4 children 3 alive
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thanks david very helpful you said jw and Arthur could be brothers whos arthur
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sorry david is it albert woombell not arthur
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Sorry, senior moment. I meant Albert.
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Hi Stephenm
My maiden name was Womble and the John Webster Woombells go back some way. I think the eldest sons were for many years called John Webster. The first one seems to have been born around 1784 in Wellow Notts - Father William Wombwell married Anne Webster. The spelling has changed a lot - he was listed as Wombwell then. I have yet to find the missing link with our families but I am fairly sure there will be one somewhere. My tree is on Ancestry under my user name fostercrew if you are interested. It might be useful to swap info.
Good luck searching
Karen
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thanks Karen my mums mother was edith l l woombell born luton 1897 I will have a look at your
tree cheers stephen
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Karen I need a password to log in to ancestry
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Sorry Stephen - had assumed you were on ancestry yourself.
I will try to take sometime and copy some stuff out if not??
What do you want to know?
Probably not this week though as things are mad at the moment.
Cheers
let me know
Karen
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Another way to do it is to get Stephen's email address via a personal message and send him an invitation in Ancestry to view your tree
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Sounds good
Stephen could you pm me your email?
I will then send you an invite -
Bedfordshire Boy - I will probably need instruction on this!!
Thanks
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Open your tree - click on Tree pages at the top to the right of your tree name - from the drop down list click on Share your tree - Email and then it's straightforward. Leave Role as Guest
David
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thanks for that
:)
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thanks Karen and david I have registered in ancestry but found it difficult to access your tree
whats the procedure to do it
cheers stephen
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Karen my email is stephenm3@live.co.uk
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Hi Stephen
I will go and do the email thing and let you know when I have done
Karen
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Stephen
I have to give you authority as I don't allow free access to me tree.
Can you give me your user name for Ancestry?
cheers
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Karen it is stephenm31 thanks
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I have sent you an email Stephen you should be able to see my tree now