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Title: Spalding Prison
Post by: Karanest on Monday 14 November 11 14:29 GMT (UK)
Can anyone tell me where to find details of prisoners held there in c 1851? The census says that John  BRACKENBURY  was a prisoner. I need to know when he went there, why, when he left!!
John was my gt gt grandfather - and two of his sons became Police Officers!!
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 14 November 11 16:05 GMT (UK)
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1851? The census says that John  BRACKENBURY  was a prisoner

I can't find an entry on the Lincs 1851 or any other 1851 showing that profile

There are 4 entries for that name on the Criminal registers in Lincs.  Only one shows a birthyear - 1809

5.4.1841 b 1809 - larceny - Not guilty

April 1829 - larceny - Not guilty

3.4.1835 - riot ( several others charged with same offence) Guilty - all are shown as discharged on own sureties to appear ?? - presumably some future date

20.10.1854 - larceny - 6mths
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: Karanest on Monday 14 November 11 18:03 GMT (UK)
JOHN Brackenbury was on the 1851 census at Spalding Prison (House of Correction) Ref. HO 107/2096, line 2.
I'm afraid that I do not understand the rest of your response!
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 14 November 11 18:40 GMT (UK)
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Ref. HO 107/2096, line 2

The full reference is  Piece 2096 Folio 562 Page 70 and he is indexed as Brakenbury as per the image - I have now notified a correction to help in future searches

The info in my reply above is from online Criminal register info for Lincs for the name John Brackenbury and I then gave you details of the date/crime/sentence

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There are 4 entries for that name on the Criminal registers in Lincs.  Only one shows a birthyear - 1809

The 1851 shows him as b 1819 Pinchbeck but incorrectly shows London
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: sallyyorks on Monday 14 November 11 18:46 GMT (UK)
john brackenbury -age 32 - b abt 1819
- prisoner -
born - pinchbeck ,london
labourer


edit , sorry posted that without realising carole had just answered
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: Karanest on Monday 14 November 11 20:07 GMT (UK)
The original census says "Lincoln, Pinchbeck". I assume that you have seen a transcript, which must have errors (London instead of Lincoln). This often happens!!

Thanks for your interest!!
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 14 November 11 23:30 GMT (UK)
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The original census says "Lincoln, Pinchbeck". I assume that you have seen a transcript

I look at both which is how I noticed the transcript was incorrect.  I have notified amendments to both name and birthplace
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: Karanest on Tuesday 15 November 11 09:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you! I think this is one of my mysteries :-(
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: Beckey on Saturday 19 November 11 11:22 GMT (UK)
to CaroleW,

Please excuse me butting in, but do you have anything on Spalding prison prior to 1841.
I have a John Savage b. 1794, Schoolmaster Surfleet, who supposedly took himself to the Assizes ater 1832 (appropriating school money).  he died 1836,buried Surfleet.
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 19 November 11 17:35 GMT (UK)
Hi

There are 3 entries for a John Savage in Lincs but all were after 1836
Title: Re: Spalding Prison
Post by: Beckey on Sunday 20 November 11 09:52 GMT (UK)
Hi CaroleW,

Thank you for that, he was supposed to have gone to the Assizes after 1832, or that was what he told the School Governors he was going to do because of "pecuniary offences", but it would seem that he didn't and still remained the School Master until his death.