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Title: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Saturday 12 November 11 20:11 GMT (UK)
hi, could some please check the 1861 address, 34 Lonsdale Road Kensington.
I am trying to find information on the first wife of a Joseph George Finn. I know from there sons baptism rec from 1864 they lived at this address, and her name was Jane.
Thats all I know on her. I have already found Joseph Finn in the census still living with his mother at another address.
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: Isobelruss on Saturday 12 November 11 20:17 GMT (UK)
Theres no Jane or Finns in 1861 at that address
RG9 14/135/21
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 12 November 11 20:45 GMT (UK)
The 1861 and 1881 shows Joseph as a painter and decorator as does his 1872 marriage cert but the 1864 baptism has him as a carpenter

He was b Kensington 1844/45 but I can't find an 1871 entry for him

The only Jane Finn death was Dec qtr 1870 in Poplar aged 29
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please. Complete
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Saturday 12 November 11 21:18 GMT (UK)
thanks for the help. I thought it was a long shot. I have also not been able to find Joseph in the 1871 census that and the maiden name of his first wife Jane. Is the only thing i can't find on Joseph. Looks like I will have to try and buy Jane and Joseph sons birth certificate. Or gamble on the death certificate you found. Is that on the free bmd list?
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 12 November 11 21:23 GMT (UK)
The death cert won't give you any info that will find her maiden name

Is this the birth reg for Francis???.  He was b 26.12.1863 so the quarter is right as his birth would be registered after Christmas.  The district is also correct

Births March qtr 1864  Francesco Joseph Finn    Kensington  1a 77
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Saturday 12 November 11 21:31 GMT (UK)
that is true about the maiden name. It would be could to see why she died. As you say it most be the right birth although as you can prob see there is one or two that it could be. Like I say may have to gamble a little. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 12 November 11 23:01 GMT (UK)
Have you got bapt. of his son Joseph Harry with Caroline  born 3/4/1873 bapt 21/4/1873 st.John Evanagelist Hammersmith address 54 Southierton? Road occ. House decorator?

Jennifer
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Sunday 13 November 11 00:19 GMT (UK)
i hadn't seen this thanks. But i have Joseph harry Finns birth certificate that gives his birth date  as 14.2.1875 how can this be right?
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 13 November 11 00:56 GMT (UK)
Is it the same address?

Jennifer
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 13 November 11 01:00 GMT (UK)
Daughter Jessie Caroline b 30.12.1875 christened 12.1.1876 St John the Evangelist Hammersmith father Joseph George Finn paperhanger and mother Caroline

Address 21 Mansion House Street
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 13 November 11 01:04 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this is the birth

Births June qtr 1873   
Joseph Henry Finn    Kensington  1a 194

Deaths June qtr 1873   
Joseph Henry Finn 0  Kensington  1a 123

Next son born 1875 was given the same name in that Henry = Harry
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Sunday 13 November 11 05:55 GMT (UK)
the address on Joseph Harry's birth certificate is stated as 29 Mansion House street.
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Sunday 13 November 11 06:13 GMT (UK)
thanks Carollw. So it looks like they had a son Joseph Henry Finn befor they had Joseph harry finn. How interesting! I would have to buy the certificates you found to confirm. 
this is why this web site is so great thanks so much for all your helps.
I just had a quick look for any more bapt. That may relate but with no luck.
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 13 November 11 21:08 GMT (UK)
They were at 21 Mansion House St when Jessie was christened.  Didn't hang around did they - Joseph Harry born 14.2.1875 and Jessie Caroline 30.12.1875
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 13 November 11 21:14 GMT (UK)
Have a look at these entries from the IGI Pilot website - link as follows

https://www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

3 childrens baptisms

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9WXX-1W2/p1

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9WXF-31L/p1

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9WXF-31G/p1
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 13 November 11 23:54 GMT (UK)
Deaths recorded - Tyrone Charles Finn Jan 1880 Fulham & Florence Elizabeth Finn October 1893 Fulham.

Jennifer
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 14 November 11 00:03 GMT (UK)
Not sure what you have , or want?

1881 census Joseph & Caroline  plus 4 children

1891 census Florence10 & Augustus 8 as scholar at a school in Ealing?

Jennifer
Title: Re: 1861 census address look up please
Post by: tonyfinn18 on Monday 14 November 11 10:25 GMT (UK)
hi Jennifer
Thanks for the help everyone. I was looking for the second name of Joseph George Finns first wife. I thought i had found every thing else about his life. It turns out i haven't. So this is what i do know any other information would be greatly appreciated.

Joseph george Finn
b 12.6.1843
m. Jane ??
Second m. Caroline Angliss 17.6.1872
D. 12.6.1889
buried in hammering cematery 17.6.1889
he had Francis Finn with his fist wife
and the following with Caroline
Joseph Harry Finn 1875
Jessie Caroline Finn 1879
Florence Finn 1880

i have found Joseph in the following census. 1851,61,81
and caroline in the 1891 cen as Caroline holingsheads. There seems to be at least two more children.
Joseph henry finn and a Tyron finn.
Any information anyone could find on the children or his first wife would be very helpful.