RootsChat.Com
Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Fawzi on Friday 11 November 11 09:41 GMT (UK)
-
Arthur Dunne, a barrister, Dublin and first captain of Attorneys Cavalry and Crown Solicitor for Connaught 1794-1814.
I wonder if this name rings any bells?
I'd love to hear from someone with a connection - thanks.
-
I realise that this an old request and the OP hasn't been logged in since it was made however he/she may have notifications turned on.
I have a connection to an Arthur DUNNE, solicitor, Dublin whom I believe died in c1814 and was married to an Emily GORDON -they married in 1780 - five children one of whom was my ggggrandfather who was the second child and second son born 1785/6.
Cheers
Cando
-
Hello - I am delighted to hear from you re Arthur Dunn(e) and family. My gt-gt-grandfather was James Henry HUNTER, a grandson of Arthur. Daughter of Arthur and Jane Gordon, Henrietta/Hester was married to William Hunter and I have information re four children:
John Arthur
Clara Wilhelmina
William
James Henry
I look forward to hearing from you.
Brenda
-
Hi Brenda :)
Oh this is exciting.
So according to your information, Arthur and Emily had more than the five children I have noted in my tree.
I am descended from their son George, who was in the Military Accounts Office in Dublin and died in 1824. George's son, Wm Henry, from his second marriage, emigrated with his wife and chn to Australia.
According to my records and the Dublin Marriage License Index, Arthur DUNNE and Jane GORDON were married in 1780 and I note that a Hester DUNN and William HUNTER married in 1785...so this needs further investigation.
Handwritten notes in 1893 by my gggrandfather Wm Henry DUNNE, state his father was George who died in 1824 and George's father was Arthur DUNNE, a solicitor in Dublin and mother Emily GORDON.
I would certainly be interested in your research that Hester was the daughter of Arthur and Emily.
I will send pm my email address.
Cheers :)
Cando
-
Just in case there is interest in this thread, it would appear that Arthur DUNNE who died in 1814 is Hester's brother not her father. I found their baptisms [Arthur 1761 and Hester 1864] at St Mary's COI, Dublin with parents Arthur and Mary.
Cheers
Cando
-
An update on the above information above some of which was found to be incorrect.
Arthur DUNNE Snr. born 1737 died 21 Feb 1814 and is buried in St James Church Cemetery, Dublin and his MI gives his age and former occupation. His wife was Mary UNKNOWN who died 27 Jan 1787.
Arthur had a substantial estate which included properties in Dominick Street and Rockville House on Glenamuck Road, Carrickmines - which I understand, still stands.
Their eight children included
1. Arthur born 23 Feb 1761 and may have died 8 May 1792. Arthur married Jane GORDON in 1780 and their second son George born 1885 died on 28 Jul 1824 in Dublin. George married twice 1. Jane JACOB and 2. Eliza WALSH [my line]
2. Hester born 13 Sep 1764 and died 1796 Dublin. She married William HUNTER 30 Jul 1785 at St James COI, Dublin. Four children posted on the thread. [Brenda's line]
Cando
-
Hi!
Just came across this site and thread today on google while doing some research. So I have created an account. I am a descendant of the Dunne family living in Melbourne, Australia. William Henry Dunne is my gggg grandfather. As I'm new, I'm still trying to work out exactly how the site works. I see this thread is a few years old, but hopefully you will still receive notifications? I'm wondering if perhaps you have found some further information on any members of the Dunne family during that time. I am travelling to Dublin in a few weeks and would be very interested to visit any relevant sites i.e. graves, properties owned etc. if possible linked to the Dunne family. For example, I believe William Henry owned property in Grafton Street, Dublin.
Anything you have would be great.
Thanks all :)
-
Welcome. What do you know about William Henry Dunne?
Born when? (approx)
Did he marry in Ireland?
Religion?
etc
Basically... what Irish records are you looking for?
-
Thank you!
I have a fair amount of info about William. I believe he was born in Cork in approx. Oct 1822. And was also married in Ireland to Eliza Skelton before coming to Australia, where he lived and died. He was a school teacher and I believe he owned numerous properties in Dublin, leaving some to his daughter in his will. What I'm really struggling to find is a lot of info about this father, George, grandfather Arthur and great grandfather Arthur Snr. (and wives). I've got rough dates for births, death and marriages etc. but probably more so, particularly with my travels to Ireland coming up soon, looking to see if anyone is aware of any sites I can visit linked to William, George, Arthur, Arthur and any other members in that direct line. Prehaps their graves, properties they owned/lived in etc. I know that's fairly broad but just wanted to ask in case someone had come across something. But as I said, literally any extra information that can be offered is appreciated.
-
Was Eliza Skelton a widow when she married?
On FamilySearch
There is a marriage in Fermanagh of William Henry Dunne and Eliza Skelton or Clarke in 1846 giving William's father as William Henry Dunne
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNC-NYF
and
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGY7-QW8H
unfortunately the image of the marriage cert isn't online yet but should be soon.
which of course doesn't match with your information that his father was George.
-
Thank you!
I have a fair amount of info about William. I believe he was born in Cork in approx. Oct 1822. And was also married in Ireland to Eliza Skelton before coming to Australia, where he lived and died. He was a school teacher and I believe he owned numerous properties in Dublin, leaving some to his daughter in his will. What I'm really struggling to find is a lot of info about this father, George, grandfather Arthur and great grandfather Arthur Snr. (and wives). I've got rough dates for births, death and marriages etc. but probably more so, particularly with my travels to Ireland coming up soon, looking to see if anyone is aware of any sites I can visit linked to William, George, Arthur, Arthur and any other members in that direct line. Prehaps their graves, properties they owned/lived in etc. I know that's fairly broad but just wanted to ask in case someone had come across something. But as I said, literally any extra information that can be offered is appreciated.
Religion?
-
So William you believe he was born in Cork in approx. Oct 1822. And was also married in Ireland to Eliza Skelton before coming to Australia, where he lived and died.
He was a school teacher and you believe he owned numerous properties in Dublin, leaving some to his daughter in his will.
So was his daughter in Ireland or Oz?
Does a Will exist and does it say Where in Dublin the properties were?
He died in Oz.....When?
I'm not going to spend hours trawling throug Wills and Deeds to see if daughter (single or married) registered the Inheritance year by year because you won't post some actual details!
-
some Church Baptism, Marriage and Burial results for arthur dunn from ? to 1860http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nut/
you can select religion from list on left!
-
Some Wills.... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nuu/ from Wills Registry
-
Thank you Sinann! My information may be incorrect... my personal family tree didn't cover really any information on the pair or any further back from them, so everything I have found as been through my own research and things I have been able to uncover on ancestry.com, myheritage etc. that seem to fit with the little info I had. I had seen mention elsewhere of them possibly marrying in Fermanagh so I will be sure you check out that link you attached. Thanks so much!
-
Hallmark, I apologise if my messages have been unclear or not what you require. I am completely new to this site and have only recently started researching my family history so I am both inexperienced and unfamiliar with this site and with family history research. My request wasn't solely directed at you and I never directly asked you to trawl through hours of wills and deeds. I don't have information you require regarding religion etc. hence my asking here. From what research I have done, it seems the people mentioned in this thread previously were the same as in my family tree so I just wanted to ask if anyone had any updated info from what they had discovered and posted in this thread 3 years ago. I have a copy of the will which mentions leaving 9-11 Grafton Street to a daughter but I am unsure as to which country she was in. I believe he died in 1897 in Upper Macedon, Vic. That's all I really have unfortunately... if you feel you are unable to help. That's completely fine. Thank you for your time.
-
Thank you Sinann! My information may be incorrect... my personal family tree didn't cover really any information on the pair or any further back from them, so everything I have found as been through my own research and things I have been able to uncover on ancestry.com, myheritage etc. that seem to fit with the little info I had. I had seen mention elsewhere of them possibly marrying in Fermanagh so I will be sure you check out that link you attached. Thanks so much!
There is very little to learn from those links, an image of the cert will be on Irish Genealogy soon (fingers crossed) but you can order a photocopy of the cert if you don't want to wait, the extra info will only be where the couple were living when they married and occupation of the men and witnesses.
Search page https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Ordering Certs
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do
You have to prove your not a robot and sign in be sure to tick the little box.
-
It's fine....was going to look for Wills, Deeds, Marriage Agreements if I had approx dates.
The likes of the first one here might be worth checking,
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN6-73H4-2?i=336&cat=185720
and there are a few on next few pages, these are only 1800 to 1809 but they go back another 100 years. They obviously had money if the owned property in Grafton St.
Just had quick look in 1790's, pages and pages for Dunn in Index.
-
Thank you!
I have a fair amount of info about William. I believe he was born in Cork in approx. Oct 1822. And was also married in Ireland to Eliza Skelton before coming to Australia, where he lived and died. He was a school teacher and I believe he owned numerous properties in Dublin, leaving some to his daughter in his will. What I'm really struggling to find is a lot of info about this father, George, grandfather Arthur and great grandfather Arthur Snr. (and wives). I've got rough dates for births, death and marriages etc. but probably more so, particularly with my travels to Ireland coming up soon, looking to see if anyone is aware of any sites I can visit linked to William, George, Arthur, Arthur and any other members in that direct line. Prehaps their graves, properties they owned/lived in etc. I know that's fairly broad but just wanted to ask in case someone had come across something. But as I said, literally any extra information that can be offered is appreciated.
I would suggest that any Dublin properties, if they actually existed in his name, were long gone when Wm died. His father George had three chn from a previous marriage. Wm didn't live in Dublin but in Dromore, Co Tyrone. He was a church organist when living in Ireland. His father died when he was two years of age and his mother died in 1877 in Kilalla, Co Mayo. Yes there is mention in his Will written and executed on 31 Jul 1897 but nothing listed in the real estate assets in his probate file. Wm's family notes written before his death on 9 Sep 1897 contained errors possibly because he died from 'asthenia as a result of senile paralysis' from which he had suffered for the past 8 months.
I have researched this family extensively and a lot of the information attached to family trees on the net has been sourced from me. I researched well before so much was available online.
If you would like to message me with your email address and details of where you fit into the family, I will attempt to assist you. My research is not online.
Cheers
Cando
-
Jessika has been logged in and to date has not replied here or to my personal messages.
Her tree on ancestry shows she has much information which appears to have been copied from other trees the owners of which are also descendants of George Marshall DUNNE, son of Wm H DUNNE. . I don't have a tree online but have shared documents with others who have.
I have entered the DUNNE family known places of burial in Dublin on Find A Grave website.
-
Im not sure if the discussion about Arthur Dunne, esq is still ongoing but i might have some helpful info. Arthur is my great, great, great, great grandfather (1737 - 1814) and my research indicates he was married to Jane Gordon. Their son, William Hunter was my great,great,great grandfather and was married to Hester Dunne. I have a letter from my great aunt describing their family plot at Drumchondra Church in Dublin (protestant church of Ireland) which i visited when i was in Ireland last year. I found the plot—-which is very very old and all writings on the stones are gone! With the assistance of a wonderful gentleman, Brian Freeman, who is historian of the cemetary he wrote up the church records of who is actually in the plot...which he referred to as the Dunn family plot. He also included a copy of the inscription for Arthur Dunn, esq which describes him as the crown solicitor of the province of Connaught selected by the king and country for this post in year 1798 during one of most eventful years in Irelands history. You might be able to locate this info online as i found it at one time, but have not been able to again!
-
Hi Patsydiamo :)
Welcome to rootschat :)
Arthur [1737-1814] was married to a Mary [died 27 Jan 1787] and their youngest daughter was Hester 1764-1796, who married William HUNTER c1760-1794, on 30 Jul 1785 at St Mary's Church of Ireland, Dublin.
Arthur and Mary's eldest son, Arthur 1761-1792, my 4th great-grandfather, married Jane GORDON in 1780 in Dublin. Possibly you have missed a generation in your research as I'm a fair age and Arthur 1737-1814 is my 5th great-grandfather.
Inscription from Arthur DUNN/E's grave in the church yard of St John the Baptist Church of Ireland, Drumcondra
* Altar-tomb south-west of church. White marble tablet, almost
obliterated, on south face ' : —
Sacred to the Memory of Arthur Dunn Esquire,
many years Crown Solicitor for the Province of Connaught
and first Captain of the Yeomanry [Eegim 1 ] of Cavalry,
Selected by his King and Country for this [honourable]
[post] in the year 1798, one of the most
eventful periods in the annals of Ireland. He was
no lefs distinguished by his Humanity
than by his Firmnefs and conciliatory Conduct in the
discharge of his important and
arduous duties. Having spent a long life with honor
to himself and advantage to
his Country, he died suddenly on the 21st of February
1814, in the 77th year of his age ;
leaving to his Family a proud recollection of his Virtues,
and to his Profefsion an
Example worthy of imitation.
Perhaps we could share our research to sort out any other differences. I'm sure to have a few :)
Cando
-
Its very possible ive made an error...and i would not totally trust my tree as i am a complete novice (and not very good!) at this; so much so that ive decided to hire a researcher to fill in the Hunter/Nelson part of my tree. I would be happy to share what i have, but not even sure how to do this—- or if it would be helpful to you. The paragraph youve included is the one that Mr Freeman gave me at Drumchondra. He did tell me that earlier records of ancestors buried in the Dunn plot were lost in a fire so he was not able to provide that information.
-
Could you enlarge on the HUNTER/NELSON family. I may be able to help you.
I do wonder if any other DUNN's were actually buried at the same location as Arthur 1737-1814. His wife's parish record for her burial was at St James COI, Dublin.
His son Arthur's 1761-1792 parish record was for a burial at St Pauls Church of Ireland, Dublin.
I have details of the burial places of other DUNN's in Dublin but they are not of your line.
-
Cando..thank you for your offer, but now im unsure of all my information! I will tell you what i know as fact. My grandfather, James Hume Nelson (1872- 1919) married my grandmother Bella Hunter (1875 - 1951) in Monkstown, Ireland. Bella’s father was John Elias Hunter (1825- 1895)- married to Joanna Fitzgerald (1845-)....beyond this im uncertain, but my great aunt wrote a letter indicating Bella’s great grandmothers maiden name was Dunne and they had a family burial plot in Drumcondra churchyard, Dublin . She also said that Bella’s grandfather was a solicitor and her father was solicitor general of all of Ireland (an exaggeration i believe, but that was my connection to Arthur Dunn) Based on that information and “hints” on ancestry.com, i came up with the following: John Elias Hunter was the son of John Arthur Hunter(1786 - ) and grandson of William Hunter (1760-1794) and Hester Dunn(1764-). Looking at some of my dates, it does appear that i may be off a generation, or possible even have mistaken siblings. As far as the Nelson side of my family goes; i believe they are primarily from Edinburgh, Scotland and i havent gotten very far with that research. I plan to take what information i have and likely will hire a genialogist to help fill in!! I do think it might be fairly easy for an experienced researcher as there seems to be a lot of information about these families.
Thank you for your interest!
Shannon
-
I've taken my research from Wm's notes and used them as a guide. I have found many parish records, civil records which are online from Ireland, names in the Wills index, newspaper items, and other sources eg directories. Wm's notes led me a merry chase and so for a period I put them aside and started again. I have transcribed this summary from my family history programme.
Arthur DUNN 1737-1814 was married to Mary UNKNOWN - she died 27 Jan 1787. Burial recorded in parish records of st James COI, Dublin. There were eight children. My ancestor Arthur 1761-1792 was the eldest [he married Jane GORDON in 1780] and your ancestor Hester 1764-1796, the youngest.
William HUNTER c1760-1894 married Hester DUNNE 1764-1896, on 30 July 1785 at St James COI, Dublin. Four children - John Arthur 1786-1840, Clara Wilhelmina 1788-1861, William 1789-, and James Henry 1790-1830.
John Arthur HUNTER 1786-1840 married Jane Ann Mary GREENE 1798-1880, on 5 Sep 1815 at St Mary's COI, Dublin. John Elias HUNTER 1825-1895 was their son. I haven't recorded all their chn.
John Elias HUNTER 1825-1895 married Joanna FITZGERALD 1845-1885, on 27 Nov 1865 Carmoney, Antrim and I haven't recorded all their children however there was a Sarabella [?Bella] HUNTER born 18 Jan 1875 and baptised 18 Mar 1875 in the Parish of Clontarf, Dublin. Parents John Elias and Joanna. Father's occupation - in Court of Bankruptcy.
From the marriage registration [certificate] James Hume NELSON, full age, accountant, father John James T NELSON, seed merchant, married Belle HUNTER, full age, father John E HUNTER, Deputy Registrar, Four Courts, on 5 Jul 1905 at St Patrick's, Monkstown, Co Dublin
Edit to correct groom's father's given name.
-
RE: Property.
Just doodling and came across a Deed... 1782 Wm Hunter to Arthur Dunn ( 231555 ) as per attachment, which when you look at 231555 it is also "Montgomery to Dunn"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-T94S-T?i=171&cat=185720
*231556 is also "Montgomery to Dunn"
Only posting because of the 2 names being on Document..... Haven't read them through!
-
Cando...thank you very much for that information! Ican see i have some corrections to make to my tree! If they werent in the habit of naming their children after themselves, it might be easier.... You must really have a head for this sort of thing! The information about james Humes father, John T. Nelson is especially helpful as i had not come across that info before.
Shannon
-
Shannon I've sent you a personal message with my email address.
At the top of the page you will see MY MESSAGES in the bar with the brown background. It should show (1). Click on MY MESSAGES and a new window will open.
I have quite a lot of newspaper snips about Arthur Snr which you may like. His country house still stands today.
You will note I have edited my last post as I have found that James E's father was James T not John. I have more info but will add in an email.
Thanks for the compliment but I've been researching for more years than I like to remember. I guess if you stick at something long enough some skills will rub off ;D :P
-
It is some years since I used this site, but do have information on the DUNN/HUNTER families.
My gt-gt-grandfather was James Henry HUNTER, Royal Navy lieutenant and son of William HUNTER and Henrietta/Hester Dunn; grandson of Arthur Dunn (d.1814). I have a lot of information about him; also his brother William, RN lieutenant.