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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: disha on Thursday 10 November 11 23:48 GMT (UK)
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could anyone help m find the parents of my grandmother , olive may prosser born 1907 in mryth tydfil , I have no clue who her parents or syblings were , only that her mother had been married previously to marrying her father
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Hi
Have you looked on the 1911 census - there is an entry for her aged 4 living in Merthyr
The following instructions may help you but there is another Olive Prosser aged 3mths also living in Merthyr so there is a risk of confusing the 2 families
I would strongly recommend you purchase credits and view the correct entry
USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living
Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else
In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district
In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index
Click SEARCH
The 1911 census is strictly pay per view so you will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same surname in the same household
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Are you certain Olive may Prosser was born in Merthyr Tydfil???
Or do youmean her birth was registered in Merthyr Tydfil registration district???
Could she have been born in the valleys?? In Fochriw to be precise??????
I have a possible for a family in Fochriw and the mother had been married twice?????
I think you need to take Carole's advice to be sure we folow the correct one
Suz
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hicarole ,I think I'll have to buy credits it wont show me any further details, but thank you for the direction
suzard , thank you for your reply .your quite right she was born in fochriw , do you have any info :)
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To be only considered when all info is in;
MARRIAGES;
Sarah Jane JAMES/Edward THOMAS, June 1885, Merthyr T, 11a 671
Sarah JAMES, June 1893, Merthyr T, 11a 903
On the same page is a Thomas PROSSER
(mmm remarried under maiden name???)
1891 Census
5 Colliery Terr, Fochriw,
Gelligaer, Glamorgan, Wales
Edward THOMAS, 32, Head, Mar, Repairer in a Coal Mine, born Lllanfair, Montgomeryshire, Wales
SARAH J, 24, Wife, Mar, born Devon
William J, 3, Son, born Gelligaer, Glamorgan, Wales
Jane A, 1, Daug, born Gelligaer
William T JAMES, 19, Boarder, born Lllanfair, Montgomeryshire, Wales
There is a large James Family next Door who are probably Sarah Janes Parents and probably William above is her Brother.
Head of Famiy is Seth JAMES, 50, Blacksmith at Collierry, born Castle Cary, Somerset.
Wife is Jane A, 50, born same place.
Trish :)
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1901 census gives a lot of family
2 Station Terrace Fochriw Glam
David Prosser Head M 40 Examiner of engines Cwmdu Brecon
Maggie daughter 10 Fochriw Glam
Ann daughter 9 Fochriw
Albert son 4 Fochriw
THOMAS brother M 42 Colliery Fitter above ground Cwmdu Brecon
SARAH J sister in law M 33 Castle Ciry Somerset
BEATRICE neice 6 Fochriw
IVOR S neice! 3 Fochriw
ERNEST V neice! Fochriw
WILLIAM J THOMAS neice 13 coal hewer merthyr Tydfil
JANE A THOMPSON neice 11 Fochriw
EDWARD THOMPSON neice! 9 Fochriw
RG13 5021 163 6
all of the neices/nephews have been entered as neices!
I have put in capitals Olive may's (possible) parents and siblings and half siblings
Suz
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Looks like the Family got around :)
1881 Census
26 Martins Row,
Gelligaer,Glamorgan, Wales
RG11/5308/16/33
Seth JAMES, 40, Head, Mar, Blacksmith (Mine) born Burn Castle Cary, Somerset
Z Ann, 40, Wife, Mar, born Burn Castle Cary
W John, 15, Son, Stoker at Colliery Works, born Woolich, Kent
SARAH JANE, 13, Daug, born Devonport, Devon
George Henry, 11, Son, Scholar, borm Bristol, Gloucester
Albert Thomas, 9, Son, Scholar, born Pitcomb, Somerset
Eliza Anne, 7, Daug, Scholar, born Mountain Hare, Glamorgan, Wales
Earnest Victor, 4, Son, born Cwmbargoed, Glamorgan
Elizabeth Mary, 2, Daug, born Fochrihiw, Glamorgan
1871 Census
Hadspen Lane?,
Pitcombe, Somerset
RG10/2427/24/15
Seth JAMES, 30, Head, Mar, Blacksmith, born Castle Cary, Somerset
Jane Ann, 30, Wife, Mar, born Castle Cary
William J, 5, Son, born Woolwich, Kent
SARAH J, 3, Daug, born Devonport, Devon
George H, 1, Son, born Bristol, St Paul, Gloucestershire
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As first Child is born in Kent this is a likely Marriage;
Seth JAMES, Dec 1864, Greenwich, 1d 1163
On the same page is Jane Ann BULSOM
AHH on Anc;
19 December 1864, Parish Church, Woolwich, Kent
Seth JAMES, of Age, Bachelor, Profession "Shoeing Smith Royal Artillery", Residence Artillery Barracks, Father WILLIAM James, Occp Labourer
Jane Ann BULSOM, of Age, Spinster, Residence Wood Street, Father JOHN Bulsom, Occp Labourer
Witnesses, James KING, Jane GARLAND
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I cant find Seth in 1861.
1851 Census
Victoria Cottage,
Castle Cary, Somerset
HO107/1931/199/12
Wm JAMES, 46, Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born Castle Cary
Jane, 50, Wife, Mar, born Pitcombe
Thomas, 12, Son, Scholar, born Pitcombe
SETH, 10, Son, Scholar, born Castle Cary
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1841 Census
Castle Cary, Somerset
HO107/937/11/Castle Cary
William JAMES, 35, Ag Lab
Jane, 40
Eliza, 15
Sarah, 13
Caroline, 10
Ann, 7
Emma, 4
THOS, 2
All born in County
Thos appears born c 1838 on the 1851 Census with Seth and Parents.
Marriage IGI Extracted;
William JAMES/Jane LAVER, 31 January 1825, Pitcombe, Somerset, England
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Under BALSOM on Anc
1861 Census
Castle Cary, Somerset
RG9/1647/16/26
John BULSOM, 50, Head, Mar, Labourer
Jane, 48, Wife, Mar
JANE ANN, 20, Daug, Unm
William, 16, Son
Ellen, 13, Daug
Jno, 10, Son
James, 8, Son
Charles, 5, Son
All born Castle Cary
1851 Census
Castle Cary, Somerset
HO107/1931/170/30
John BULSON, 41, Head, Mar, Ag Lab
Jane, 38, Wife, Mar
Maria, 17, Daug, Unm, Servant
JANE, 11, Daug, Scholar
George, 8, Son, Scholar
William, 6, Son, Scholar
Ellen, 4, Daug
John, 11mths
All born Castle Cary
1841 Census
Mill Lane,
Castle Cary, Somerset
HO107/937/11/Castle Cary
John BULSON, 30, Ag Lab
Jane, 25
Maria, 7
Elizabeth, 5
Mary, 3
JANE ANN, 1
All born in County
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Hi, just read your article on Olive May Prosser. She was my great aunty. I have done some research a few years back on Seth James and also John Prosser but only today have got back into it. I have a photo of Sarah Jane James my Great Grandmother and also a photo of John Prosser's headstone (married to Margaret Prosser).
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Hello there!
I've been researching my family tree and I think I'm related to Seth James. Do you guys have any information about him? I've traced him through to 1911 and I've discovered he was a retired green grocer & an army pension. Also from his marriage certificate I know he was in the army and I have found his army record. This is fascinating stuff as I think he would have been in the Second Opium War (or The Arrow War) (1856 - 1860)!
What details do you guys have? If you are on ancestry please do look us up (Mogsy22 and sueliderth62)
Thanks!
Laura and Sue
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Hi Sue. If your Seth James was born on 14th September 1841 at Castle Cary in Somerset it will definitely be the same one has mine. His father was William James and his mother Jane James formerly Laver. I'm not on Ancestry so can't keep in touch with you that way. My e-mail is fochriw88@msn.com. I'm also on Face Book.
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I recently came across an original document with an official seal in a family members home that has these 3 names on it:
Albert Thomas James
Seth James
Jane Ann (formerly bulson)
I'm thinking about doing our family tree but for now Iwas wondering if someone could (simply) tell me how all 3 of these people were related? Are Seth & Jane married? Is Tom their son? I think one might be my great-great grandfather. One of these names lives on in our family today so I'm very curious! Thanks for the help!
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Seth James was married to Jane Ann James (nee Bulson) both born in Burn Castle Cary, Somerset in 1841. Their son Albert Thomas James was born in Pitcomb, Somerset in 1872. I had this information from the 1881 census. They were living in 26 Martins Row, Fochriw which is the village I still live at. Twenty years later in the 1901 census Seth owned a shop at 4 Railway Terrace in Fochriw with Jane Ann and there was a 12 year old girl living there as a servant and I think it says "cook domestic". Her name was............. Sarah Bulson.