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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Hells65 on Wednesday 02 November 11 15:15 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm trying to confirm the baptism/parents of Samuel Dodd born around 1807 in Crewe, Cheshire. Samuel went on to marry Ellen Bostock in 1828 and died in Silverdale in 1855.
Any information would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Helen
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Hi
I'm trying to confirm the baptism/parents of Samuel Dodd born around 1807 in Crewe, Cheshire. Samuel went on to marry Ellen Bostock in 1828 and died in Silverdale in 1855.
Any information would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Helen
Moderator comment: I've merged these posts to avoid duplication of effort and keep all the information together.
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Well Helen I can't answer your main query about the parent of Samuel.However the 1861 Census shows Samuel was still alive after having apparently remarried to a Catherine-RG9/1922/20/2.There is another possible death for him in 1862 in the Wolstanton District of Staffordshire.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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I've answered the same query on the Staffordshire board.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Many thanks for your reply William.
I posted it on both boards as I knew that Samuel had lived in both counties and I wasn't completely sure which county Crewe was in back then.
Regards
Helen
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Hi William
Many thanks for your reply.
Yes, sorry my mistake - Samuel died in 1862. It was Ellen Bostock his first wife who died in 1855. I had been able to trace through his later life but just not able to find a baptism or identify his parents.
Regards
Helen
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Can you be more precise about the area of baptism / birth, Crewe was not the name commonly used until 1837+ it was Monks Coppenhall, therefore it is one of the villages that you need to let us have the name of!
Certainly there are DODD's in Wybunbury and yes they crossed between Madeley / Woolstanton Staffs and the villages around Wybunbury!
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Hello
Samuel DODD married Catherine NORCOPP 1858 Newcastle under Lyne Staffs 6b 76
The certificate should give you a fathers name.........
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Hi Elzabels
Many thanks for your replies.
The only sources I have for Samuel's place of birth are the census returns for 1841, 1851 and 1861. Both the 1851 and 1861 returns record his place of birth as being "Crewe".
However, I believe, from IGI index, that he married Ellen Bostock in Coppenhall in 1828. From what you said, I think this is now what is called Crewe?
Thank you for the information on his marriage to Catherine. I knew he'd married Catherine but not got any details. Maybe I'll order a certificate. It would be just my luck for the father's name not to be recorded!
Once again many thanks for your help.
Helen
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In the 1800s Crewe was what is now Crewe Green and was in the parish of Wybunbury so that is where the baptism is most likely to be. The church of St Michael & All Angels at Crewe Green did not open until 1857.
Some families from the old Crewe did use Barthomley Church - I have the PRs for Barthomley and there is no Samuel Dodd baptised there around the year you say.
The nearest church to Crewe Green was actually Haslington St Matthews so that is another one to try if not at Wybunbury.
Peter
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Ok, thanks for your help Peter. I'll give that a go.
Helen
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Thank you for your information Peter. I was able to get a copy of the Parish Register entry for Samuel's 1st marriage to Ellen Bostock in Coppenhall. At the time I couldn't read which Parish Samuel was living in at the time of the marriage - but now you've mentioned Barthomley I can see that's the name of the Parish.
I also managed to get a copy of Samuel's marriage certificate (2nd marriage) but unfortunately, and as I feared, no father's name is recorded. I guess this is going to be a "brick wall".
Regards
Helen
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Hi Helen
I don't know if you noticed but Samuels surname was only one D - Dod on his marriage register to Ellen.
I've looked through baptisms for Samuel Dod around the time 1806 - 1810 and found nothing around the Barthomley/Coppenhall area, although there are many Samuel Dod's registered.
Kind regards
Su
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Hi Helen,
I just came across your message and I am also researching this family line. My line continues from Samuel and Ellen's daughter Charlotte. Which line are you following?
I am sorry to say that I am also having no luck in finding Samuels parents.
Lisa
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Hi Lisa
I'm following Charlotte's line down too! Sarah Ellen born 1870 and, I believe, Charlotte's eldest child was my great grandmother. Sarah's son George was my dad's dad. How about you? Do you have and details of Charlotte's death? I believe she may have died in 1918 with the death being registered as Bayley rather than Bailey but I've not had chance to confirm this.
I'll let you know if I find out anything on Samuel.
Take care
Helen
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Hi Helen,
Charlottes son, George William Bailey, is, I believe, my great, great grandad. This would make him Sarah's half brother?
George's son, john william Bailey was my great grandad and his son Clifford Frederick Bailey was my grandad.
I also think that Charlotte died in 1918, but I have not confirmed this yet. I only started on this side of the tree very recently and I am continuing where my aunt left off!
I too think I found Bailey spelt Bayley but I know we continued to spell it Bailey after that (my maidan name)
If I find any more out I will let you know,
Take care
Lisa
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On the marriage record to Ellen BOSTOCK there are 2 witnesses: Ralph HORTON & John LEIGH
have you followed either of these to see if they are:
a) related to either party
b) if friends there maybe a common place name
Samuel maybe of Barthomley at the time of his marriage because he was working in the area, he may however have been baptised at amother church in the area probably where hois parent(s) were living, or may have been taken 'home' if the poarents were living away.
I was baptised at St Michael's Coppenhall and have never lived in the area...