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Title: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Monday 31 October 11 22:51 GMT (UK)
I'm descended on my paternal Grandmother's side from the Hampson family who were a great dynasty of boatmen in the Runcorn area in the 1700's and 1800's.

If anyone has any Hampsons in their tree and would like to pool information I'd be interested to hear from them!
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: JDGen on Tuesday 01 November 11 08:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Meezer,

The easiest way to make surname connections with other members is to enter your surname interests.
in the Surname Interests Table (SIT), and to check there whether others are researching these names. 

This can be found at http://surname.rootschat.com/ , there is a link to it at the top of each Rootschat page.

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The more people who enter their surnames, the more chance there will be of making a connection!

Jean
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Tuesday 01 November 11 11:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jean - I'll do that!
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Saturday 17 December 11 12:05 GMT (UK)
Robert Owen Hampson any good? 1852-1932.  Several wives and a barge "Julia"    Buried Runcorn Town Cemetery 12 March 1932.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Saturday 17 December 11 13:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Frank - oh he was the black sheep of the family and no mistake! Several wives indeed - a couple of them at the same time(!) Is he in your family tree also?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: andarah on Monday 16 January 12 01:02 GMT (UK)
Do you know which Hampson family you descend from?  There is a few of us who have been researching the Hampsons for a couple years now.  We think they originate from one family, but we have not been able to prove that yet.

The line I am tracing is through James Hampson (1844) son of William Hampson (1808) and Hannah Hayes.  William Hampson was the son of Richard Hampson and Mary Roylance.

I would love to communicate with you!
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Monday 16 January 12 11:57 GMT (UK)
Hi - I think we have already been in contact! I will PM you
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Wednesday 09 May 12 09:36 BST (UK)
I also have Hampsons, who were boatmen in Runcorn in the family tree - James Hampson b 1832/3. James Hampson married a Harriet Hampson (b 1834 Stockton Heath). Her parents were (I think) William Hampson & Jane Roberts (from Worsley) and I haven't been able to show any further family link (so far) between the two of them.

James Hampson was the son of John Hampson (b 1806 Runcorn) & Alice Booth. After John's death in 1841, she married Thomas Owen in 1847 and the 1851 census shows a household of Owens and Hampsons. Probably just a coincidence, or maybe it explains Robert Owen Hampson's middle name?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Wednesday 09 May 12 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi there - I'm very interested in your reply as Harriet and James were my Great great grandparents - I have a photo of Harriet that may interest you. I will PM you and perhaps we can follow things up offline?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: LGH on Monday 06 May 13 12:39 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm a Hampson and a direct descendant of John Hampson (b 1805) and Alice Booth of Runcorn mentioned by several others. I was also born in Runcorn.

Parish records are a way to get further back and my research has indicated that John was the son of William Hampson, a weaver from Warrington and his wife Mary.

LGH
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: andarah on Monday 06 May 13 14:19 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm a Hampson and a direct descendant of John Hampson (b 1805) and Alice Booth of Runcorn mentioned by several others. I was also born in Runcorn.

Parish records are a way to get further back and my research has indicated that John was the son of William Hampson, a weaver from Warrington and his wife Mary.

LGH

I've made the same deduction in my research.  Can you tell me if you've found a connection between William Hampson of Warrington and Richard Hampson?  In my tree we've traced back to Richard Hampson and Mary Roylance.  They married in 1800 in Liverpool and had their children in Runcorn in the same time period that your John Hampson was born in Runcorn.  We feel that Richard's children and John were cousins, but we haven't been able to find Richard's parents. 

There seem to be 2 main Hampson lines in Runcorn - William's line and Richard's line.

Have you made a connection between them?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Monday 06 May 13 14:29 BST (UK)
Hi,

Just to confuse things further, the parish records of Lymm have the following:

William Hampson (c 1775?) married Mary Perrin 3 Jan 1793 Lymm (both living in Lymm)
William had a brother Richard  who married Hannah Perrin

This would be a different Richard Hampson to the your one (who married Mary Roylance). I have Roylances living in Runcorn (but born in Great Budworth) in a completely different part of my family tree at this time!
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: andarah on Monday 06 May 13 14:37 BST (UK)
We've wondered if Richard married twice and this is the same person.  I can't remember where we got with that line of thinking.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Monday 06 May 13 16:31 BST (UK)
Don't think it can be the same one, because the Lymm registers list Richard Hampson & Hannah Perrin as the parents of a couple of children in 1798 and 1800.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: andarah on Monday 06 May 13 19:55 BST (UK)
Our Richard married in 1800.  I think we had wondered that if Hannah Perrin died in childbirth, he may have remarried quickly to have a mother for the kids.  Since there were no census records, we don't know how many children were in the home.

If I remember correctly, we've determined that the chances are slim that it's the same person, but it's possible.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: LGH on Monday 06 May 13 22:34 BST (UK)
Sorry, I've not made any connection to Richard. But I do still live locally (about 8 miles from Runcorn) so if there is anything on the ground I can help to track down for you then let me know.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Tuesday 07 May 13 11:48 BST (UK)
Richard Hampson & Hannah Perrin have a child Richard in Lymm in 1798 and then Sarah Hampson is christened in Runcorn in April 1800.

Richard Hampson marries Mary Roylance 19 March 1800 in Liverpool

Richard Hampson & Mary have a child, Hannah Hampson born 25 Jun 1800, christened 3 Aug 1800
 (followed by Mary, Mary Ann, Sarah in later years).

If these are all the same man, he was a very fast worker, on a par with the later Robert Owen Hampson  :D
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Tuesday 07 May 13 16:31 BST (UK)
Gosh, I was surprised (and pleased!) to see some recent replies to my original post!

Ceratonia - you might be interested to know that the name Owen was given to Robert Owen Hampson as his mother's maiden name was Jane Owen, the daughter of William Owen, a Master mariner from Frodsham, Cheshire.

I have a contact who has done literally years of research about our Hampsons and she tells me she's pretty sure that the birth she's found for William Hampson who married Mary Perrin must be correct - 16/9/1770 - Bowdon -William- son of Charles and Ann - of Hale.  This ties in perfectly with his date of death  in 1822 aged 52.  Residence, Stockton Heath, Buried Grappenhall.  Bowdon is about 4 miles east of Lymm
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: LGH on Wednesday 08 May 13 10:49 BST (UK)
I have come across other baptism records which are believe are William and Mary’s other children -  sons Joseph Sept 12 1813 and Thomas June 18 1815; occupation then mariner and living in Stockton Heath. This seems to me to link in geographically, by name with the 2 later Josephs in my own Hampson line and with the mariner / waterman / ferryman work theme.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Wednesday 08 May 13 11:33 BST (UK)
Ref: Richard Hampson 1768-1826 two partners.  Hannah Perrin and Mary Roylance. I find a marriage to Mary in Liverpool 19 March 1800.  I find no such marriage to Hannah - only two children Richard 1798.  Sarah 1800.  I find a burial of Hannah Hampson  30 June 1802 aged 55, all Saints Church Runcorn which puts Hannah's birth as 1747 - not realistic if Richard 1798 and Sarah 1800 are hers - perhaps the burial age is in question. (All referenced to Family Search)

Thank you Ceratonia I found the marriage registration of Richard Hampson to Hannah Perrin in the Bishops Transcripts - no date however was given.  Their two children Richard 1798 and Sarah 1800 both of Lymm also registered.   As to the death of Hannah Hampson 30 June 1802 age 55: I believe this to be a transcription error and the age should read 35!  this makes her known birth in 1767 absolutely correct.  FrankRay.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Wednesday 08 May 13 11:49 BST (UK)
The marriage to Hannah Perrin is in the Lymm records which you can access online at the Cheshire Parish Registers database. The date of her baptism (30 May 1773) is also there and you can trace her descent (I think, courtesy of a relatively uncommon surname) from William Perrin & Mary Newall and then Joseph Perrin & Hannah Robinson of High Legh who married in 1731.  So - I don't think the Hannah Hampson who dies in Runcorn 1802 is the one nee Perrin who is/was married to Richard Hampson.

Interesting find LGH. Can't seem to find Joseph H(1813) or Thomas H(1815) in any later records, although I haven't looked too hard. Stockton Heath/Grappenhall/Lymm/Runcorn all right on the Bridgewater Canal, as you say (and Bowdon is only a mile or two away). The canal was built a few years before William Hampson was born - and then extended to Runcorn in the 1770s.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Wednesday 08 May 13 14:01 BST (UK)
So - if Charles & Ann are the correct parents for William Hampson, father of John Hampson, we have (from IGI)

Charles Hampson (age 21 batchelor) m Ann Massey 9 Jan 1755 Bowdon
and then baptisms in Bowdon with parents Charles & Ann

Charles Hampson 14 Sep 1760
James Hampson 23 May 1762
Alice Hampson 23 May 1762
John Hampson 13 May 1764
William Hampson 16 Sep 1770
George Hampson 30 May 1773

Charles Hampson Burial 26 Sep 1776 Bowdon

That doesn't quite match what I was expecting, as we know William has a brother Richard. Of course, there are plenty of gaps in the above list where other children could've been born.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Wednesday 08 May 13 20:00 BST (UK)
Gosh, I was surprised (and pleased!) to see some recent replies to my original post!

Ceratonia - you might be interested to know that the name Owen was given to Robert Owen Hampson as his mother's maiden name was Jane Owen, the daughter of William Owen, a Master mariner from Frodsham, Cheshire.

I have a contact who has done literally years of research about our Hampsons and she tells me she's pretty sure that the birth she's found for William Hampson who married Mary Perrin must be correct - 16/9/1770 - Bowdon -William- son of Charles and Ann - of Hale.  This ties in perfectly with his date of death  in 1822 aged 52.  Residence, Stockton Heath, Buried Grappenhall.  Bowdon is about 4 miles east of Lymm

   There is a marriage at Lymm 3 Jan 1793 Batch M13069-1 William Hampson to Mary Perrin both of Lymm
Title: James Hampson & wife Harriet family grave.
Post by: frankray on Friday 10 May 13 19:55 BST (UK)
Runcorn Town Cemetery, Greenway Road, Runcorn.  Photo taken c 2005
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Friday 10 May 13 20:03 BST (UK)
Runcorn Town Cemetery James & Harriett Hampson family grave:  Photo taken c 2005
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Friday 10 May 13 21:23 BST (UK)
James and Harriet Hampson were my great great Grandparents. Harriet is the lady seated in this photo - the man is her son in law James Brocklebank, my great Grandfather who's also buried there.
The other names on the headstone are Sarah Jane Brocklebank (James' wife, my great grandmother who is the other lady in the photo) and Annie Lightfoot (nee Hampson, Sarah Jane's sister)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m260/AnnTroy/Family2_zpsf2fcf4b3.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/AnnTroy/media/Family2_zpsf2fcf4b3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: James Hampson & wife Harriet family grave.
Post by: Meezer on Friday 10 May 13 21:44 BST (UK)
I have posted a photo of the people buried there in my "Hampson family - Runcorn watermen" post  ;D

Moderator comment: I've merged the 2 topics now so all the information is together
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Sunday 12 May 13 16:29 BST (UK)
Richard Hampson 1768-1926 and wife Mary Roylance family memorial.  All Saints Church, Runcorn.  Other names are Sarah Hampson – died 27.Nov.1827 age 22.

 Mary Hampson -  can’t read any of her details but it could be Mary (Roylance) Hampson as I can read ‘wife’ aged 55  (d/o the above.)
 
Sarah Hampson – died 27.11.1827 age 22.   This would be Sarah born 1805, daughter of Richard and Mary (Roylance) Hampson.
 
John – the only things I can read there is ‘son of’.
 
Mary – This would be Mary Ann Hampson born 1803 as it shows ‘daughter’ and her age at death 80 years.
 
Kitty – This would be the wife of John born 1813 as it shows her year of death as 1885, age 66,
Title: James Hampson family - Runcorn waterman
Post by: frankray on Sunday 12 May 13 17:40 BST (UK)
James Hampsonborn 1848 married Betsey RobertsAll Saints Church 24 Jan 1886   Betsy death on the memorial 3 Jan 1890;  A daughter Lily was born 1888. Thomas Alfred Hampson aged 8 months is buried with Betsy.

As a widower James lodged in Albert Street.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Monday 13 May 13 15:40 BST (UK)
Thank you for all these photos - much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Monday 13 May 13 16:11 BST (UK)
Some more info on William and Mary's sons Thomas and Joseph from my contact:

Death - Thomas Hampson, bargeman born 1816, abode Stockton Heath, died 29/1/1841 of Typhus fever aged 25.  Buried at Grappenhall.

Death - Joseph Hampson, born 1813, of Stockton Heath.  Died 1813 aged 11 weeks.  Buried at Grappenhall.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Monday 13 May 13 17:18 BST (UK)
So - if Charles & Ann are the correct parents for William Hampson, father of John Hampson, we have (from IGI)

Charles Hampson (age 21 batchelor) m Ann Massey 9 Jan 1755 Bowdon
and then baptisms in Bowdon with parents Charles & Ann

Charles Hampson 14 Sep 1760
James Hampson 23 May 1762
Alice Hampson 23 May 1762
John Hampson 13 May 1764
William Hampson 16 Sep 1770
George Hampson 30 May 1773

Charles Hampson Burial 26 Sep 1776 Bowdon

That doesn't quite match what I was expecting, as we know William has a brother Richard. Of course, there are plenty of gaps in the above list where other children could've been born.

   There are three additional children.  Sarah Hampson chr 28 Nov 1756:  Anne chr 14 May 1758:  Margaret chr 6 Apr 1765:  All St Mary's Bowdon.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Monday 13 May 13 17:56 BST (UK)
Richard Hampson 1768-1926 and wife Mary Roylance family memorial.  All Saints Church, Runcorn.  Other names are Sarah Hampson – died 27.Nov.1827 age 22.

 Mary Hampson -  can’t read any of her details but it could be Mary (Roylance) Hampson as I can read ‘wife’ aged 55  (d/o the above.)
 
Sarah Hampson – died 27.11.1827 age 22.   This would be Sarah born 1805, daughter of Richard and Mary (Roylance) Hampson.
 
John – the only things I can read there is ‘son of’.
 
Mary – This would be Mary Ann Hampson born 1803 as it shows ‘daughter’ and her age at death 80 years.
 
Kitty – This would be the wife of John born 1813 as it shows her year of death as 1885, age 66,
The John above mentioned on the memorial is John Hampson s/o Richard & Mary Roylance. killed 16 Feb 1845 aged 31 (Kitty's husband).  the Coroners report is attached.
Title: Robert Owen Hampson 1852-1932 & wife Hannah
Post by: frankray on Tuesday 14 May 13 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi Frank - oh he was the black sheep of the family and no mistake! Several wives indeed - a couple of them at the same time(!) Is he in your family tree also?

Hannah Hampson nee Whitbread 1848-1882: memorial attached.

Hannah the first wife of Robert Owen Hampson drowned aged 34 - we know not the circumstances.  Robert a Waterman on the barge "Julia"  suggests the canal.  Her memorial, no doubt commissioned by Robert, sends a poignant message from the grave.

I little thought when I left home
   My death would run so near
But now the hour for me has come
   No longer to be here
Be warned by my sudden call
   and you for death prepare
For it will come you know not when
   the moment how or where
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Tuesday 14 May 13 17:20 BST (UK)
Frankray - yes we do know the circumstances in which Hannah drowned, it was very sad as she was taking a meal to her husband on his boat in the dock but slipped in the dark, fell in the dock and was drowned.

Title: Re: James Hampson & wife Harriet family grave.
Post by: frankray on Sunday 16 June 13 15:36 BST (UK)
Runcorn Town Cemetery, Greenway Road, Runcorn.  Photo taken c 2005


In the grave but not noted on memorial is Simeon John Hampson born 26 Suffolk Street, Runcorn was buried 12 April 1891 aged 1 month.  Re: Burial records.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Sunday 16 June 13 16:28 BST (UK)
Simeon John was a son of William Hampson.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Sunday 16 June 13 18:32 BST (UK)
Simeon John was a son of William Hampson.

Which William Hampson would that be please.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Sunday 16 June 13 18:47 BST (UK)
William Hampson, railway signalman - living at 26, Suffolk Street Runcorn on the 1891 census. If you type in "Simeon Hampson" (without the J) you'll find the family on the 1891 census.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: hoople on Sunday 16 June 13 22:26 BST (UK)
Meezer - delighted to see photo of Harriet Hampson, who is also my Great - Great Grandmother. My Grandfather was Herbert Hampson 1868-95. He was Harriet and James' youngest child. That photo would almost certainly have been taken by George Brocklebank at his studio in Widnes. Harriet was living close by in Charles Street with her daughter and son-in-law.
Do you know who the two children are? I would guess that the girl is Harriet Brocklebank or it could be her sister Flora.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: hoople on Sunday 16 June 13 22:31 BST (UK)
Correction.   That should have said that Herbert Hampson was my GREAT Grandfather.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Sunday 16 June 13 22:40 BST (UK)
Hi Hoople - have replied to you via message.

I'm pretty sure that the children are Flo (Flora) and John. George, who worked as a photographer, was Harriet's grandson, my grandmother's brother.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Monday 17 June 13 11:32 BST (UK)
Meezer - delighted to see photo of Harriet Hampson, who is also my Great - Great Grandmother. My Grandfather was Herbert Hampson 1868-95.

Herbert Hampson was my Grandmother's Grandfather (she is in her 90s). I have a pdf of a Widnes directory of 1895 which lists "Hampson Hrbt Relieving Officer 55 Birchfield Road Appleton." but I've yet to discover what a Relieving Officer did.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Meezer on Monday 17 June 13 12:33 BST (UK)
A Relieving Officer was an "Official of the Poor Law Union to whom the poor or retarded persons in the parish could apply for poor relief". ("Retarded" is the word from the occupations list of the time not mine!)
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: hoople on Monday 17 June 13 22:39 BST (UK)
Herbert Hampson was appointed Relieving Officer for Widnes in 1891, at £100 per year. At the same meeting it was proposed that a straight-jacket for lunatics also be purchased!

Herbert died in 1895 after a visit to Manchester to see his sister, when he caught a chill in poor weather and died a few days later.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: hoople on Monday 17 June 13 23:18 BST (UK)
Whilst not discounting the possibility that the parents of John Hampson, born 1806, could be William Hampson, a weaver from Warrington and his wife, Mary, nobody has yet mentioned the marriage at Runcorn on 5 Sept. 1804 of John Hampson and Ellen Bowers of Runcorn. Surely another candidate for John's parents.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: David Hankey on Friday 21 June 13 13:40 BST (UK)
Hi, everyone,

I have Margaret Hampson in my 'Hankey' tree. I understand she was born at Weaverham in 1846 and died in 1910 at Northwich or nearby. She was the daughter of William & ? (no other details to hand).

She married Henry Hankey in 1873 at Weaverham but the strange thing is her surname was listed as Thompson. Had she been married before? Does anyone know?

On the 1881 Census Margaret, Henry and their children, Maria, Thomas & Richard are residing at Old Boat Road, Barnton and Henry is listed as a Salt Boiler.

Hope this slots in somewhere.

Regards, David
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Sunday 30 June 13 19:47 BST (UK)
Attached is the family memorial of William Hampson born 4 May 1809 Runcorn and wife Hannah (Hayes)  All Saints Church.  Hope this helps.  Ray
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: David Hankey on Monday 01 July 13 10:02 BST (UK)
Ray, that's does help. Thank you very much.

Regards, David
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Ceratonia on Saturday 03 August 13 19:40 BST (UK)
The Cheshire County Council tithe maps show a William Hamson as one of the occupiers of cottages at Littlemore Row, in 1847. You may need to copy and paste the whole URL to get to the right map,

http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/TwinMaps.aspx?singleplot=EDT_17-2*81*EDT_17-1&singlesrch=st.2!owf.!ows.!ocf.!ocs.!x.0!psh.Great+Budworth!map.EDT+17%2f2
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: hoople on Monday 05 August 13 21:07 BST (UK)
Ceratonia, what a coincidence! I was looking at the same Tithe maps yesterday, so I popped along to Stockton Heath and stood outside the very same Littlemore,s Row. It is now Kimberley Drive and I'm not sure if they are the same cottages but they are certainly of a good age. I identified them from the old maps on that Cheshire website and then found them on Google Earth.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: LRHampsonFarrell on Thursday 15 August 13 16:15 BST (UK)
Hi all

I am a Hampson, living in Antigua in the Caribbean (West Indies); trying to trace the line of a Joseph Hampson, whose father's name is George Hampson.  We do not have information in Antigua about Joseph's parents or their relations and we are preparing for a family reunion next summer and would love to get as much of the information as possible.  Can you help me please? 

My grandfather's name is Wycliffe Hampson, born in 1916 Antigua and died at 95 yrs of age, 2 years ago.  We never knew his father or his father's father... Is there anyone out there with any information at all?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: spellweaver on Sunday 01 September 13 19:25 BST (UK)
Interested in this line, because my GGrandfather's sister, Susan Hinman, was one of the several wives of Robert Owen Hampson.  Is anyone on the list directly descended from Robert Owen Hampson?  Quick explanation.  Robert's "squeeze" at the 1891 census, when he was still married to Susan Hinman, was Eliza Cottier, b Douglas IOM.  Eliza and Robert had three surviving children, two of whom went to Canada as Home Children.  Eliza (we think) had another two illegitimate children prior to taking up with Robert Owen Hampson.  Both of these children were also adopted, and one went to Canada.

My other boatmen interests are:
Hinman/Inman, Seymour, Salt, Fradley, Swift, Lunt, Cawley, Musson, Northwood, Underhill, Harrison.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Friday 18 October 13 11:40 BST (UK)
Richard Hampson 1768-1926 and wife Mary Roylance family memorial.  All Saints Church, Runcorn.  Other names are Sarah Hampson – died 27.Nov.1827 age 22.

 Mary Hampson -  can’t read any of her details but it could be Mary (Roylance) Hampson as I can read ‘wife’ aged 55  (d/o the above.)
 
Sarah Hampson – died 27.11.1827 age 22.   This would be Sarah born 1805, daughter of Richard and Mary (Roylance) Hampson.
 
John – the only things I can read there is ‘son of’.
 
Mary – This would be Mary Ann Hampson born 1803 as it shows ‘daughter’ and her age at death 80 years.
 
Kitty – This would be the wife of John born 1813 as it shows her year of death as 1885, age 66,


TRANSPORT IN THE MANCHESTER AREA AND BEYOND IN 1820.

Two elegant passage -boats - Richard Hampson & James Parkinson, Masters, for passengers and their luggage only, go alternatively form Manchester to Runcorn, in Cheshire, one of which leaves Castle-Quay, Manchester every morning, at eight o'clock:  Passes Altrincham at 10 o'clock, London-Ridge, near Warrington, at one: (where coaches meet it to convey passengers to Warrington and Liverpool).  Passes Preston Book, near Frodsham, at three, (where a stage-coach meets it to convey passengers to Chester) and arrive (Runcorn) at five in the evening.

The above Richard fits in well who married Mary Roylance  He was born in 1768 and would have been 52 in 1820.  He died in 1826 aged 58
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: spellweaver on Monday 13 January 14 15:57 GMT (UK)
Presently putting a website together for people with canal ancestors, collecting newspaper articles on boatmen - free to search, though it's only a start right now.  Would get along much faster if my typing was better!
I should be uploading about 400 articles from the Cheshire Observer sometime this week - I've almost finished it.  One dated December 7th 1867 reports the bankruptcy of John Hampson of Lower Tranmere, boatman, and shows against his name, Hampson or Enson.  If anyone is looking for this family, I guess this might help.
I don;t know whether rootschat will let me give details of the site, if anyone is interested.  I'll check and come back on this.
Angela ;D
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: David Hankey on Monday 13 January 14 16:04 GMT (UK)
Hi, Angela,

I can't see any reason why Rootschat would mind you giving a link to a separate website for folk with canal ancestors. Personally, I would think it very useful and I look forward to seeing it.

Best wishes, David
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: spellweaver on Thursday 16 January 14 20:30 GMT (UK)
Well, if nobody minds, the site is www.spellweaver-online.co.uk.  I'd be grateful for the hits to drive the site up the search engines.  At the moment it appears on page 2 if you type in spellweaver-online, which is not too sad, but the site had a previous incarnation - fashion jewellery - so Google hasn't recognised the "Canal boatman" bit yet - Google, like God, works in mysterious ways!
If anybody has any material I can add, please get in touch, contributions welcome.
Angela :-http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/kiss.gif
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Jeepers on Saturday 18 January 14 03:01 GMT (UK)
Hello!

I am looking to connect with others related to the Hampson family of Runcorn.  Recently learned that Robert Owen Hampson was likely my grandfather's father.  Eliza Cottier was his mother.  My grandfather was a Home Child sent to Canada in 1905 ... his background a mystery we are trying to solve.
 



Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Jeepers on Saturday 18 January 14 03:28 GMT (UK)
Must make 3 postings to be able to use PM service.  So here goes #2    :D
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Jeepers on Saturday 18 January 14 03:31 GMT (UK)
And for #3. 

After a quick look over the previous postings here would like to connect with Meezer, frankray, Ceratonia, and hoople.

Greetings Spellweaver - the Canadians have made it onto rootschat finally!! 
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: frankray on Saturday 18 January 14 17:53 GMT (UK)
Hello Jeepers,  Robert Owen Hampson has ample followers and to their credit there is much in print about his life, some conjecture, some in fact by DNA.  Robert is buried with his first wife Hannah Whitbread; along with son, William, and a Jane (1889) who died at 20 months.  He is in Runcorn Town Cemetery.  No headstone found. (2010)   Plot 11  Grave 766.  Which of his wives or mistress are you from? 

Good Luck  Frank Ray.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Jeepers on Saturday 18 January 14 18:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Frank,

Thanks for the posting - too bad no gravestone.  I have seen some of the discussion of ROH and from the paper trail I have, well, he is something!

I am from Eliza Cottier, the "lady" he lived with in the 1890's (while still married to Susan).  I do have some history from Angela re:  Hannah & her kids, Susan & her kids.  ROH parents Jane Owen And James Hampson.

Eliza was mother to the Jane #1 you mentioned.  Then also mother to Owen, Jane #2 (lived to adulthood) and Philip.  My grandfather we believe was Owen ... however we knew him as James Reginald Hollingsworth.   Sometime around 1896/98 Eliza returned to the IOM with the boys, Jane #2 went to relatives in IOM and then back in St Helens.  Where Eliza returned sometime between 1901-1905 with Philip, and died in 1910.

Owen went to the Industrial Home at Strathallan Hall 1899-1905, then Canada.  Philip remained with Eliza until 1906/7, when he went to the Liverpool Sheltering Home and to Canada 1909ish.

That's it in a nutshell.  Recent DNA connects myself to the grandaughter of Philip and we are waiting DNA for connection to Jane #2.  The paper trail indicates we are Hampson's biologically.  Trying to get to the bottom of it all.

Would love more info - both facts and conjecture.  Many unanswered questions.

Cheers
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Jeepers on Monday 20 January 14 03:50 GMT (UK)
Anyone know of or have a photo of Robert Owen Hampson (B. 1852)?

Or know of any direct descendants of his that are alive?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: fionakeeble on Saturday 08 February 14 21:25 GMT (UK)
hi, I'm new to roots, I have been tracing my family tree on Genes Reunited but hit a block with my grandmothers grandparents, my great grandmother was Evelyn Maud Alberta Hampson b 1893, who married (1914) John Ernest Brownlow b1889. Evelyn's father was Herbert Hampson b 1868 in Runcorn but I'm having difficulty tracing his parents...I think he is related to the river men, but hope someone here can help??
thanks
Fiona Barker
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: SVC on Friday 14 February 14 19:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Fiona,
Herbert's parents were William Hampson  1859 - 1929 and Harriet Lowe Woodward.
William's parents were James Hampson  1832 - 189? And Harriet Hampson ( they were cousins )
James's parents were John Hampson 1805 - 1841 and Alice Booth.
I am descended from Herbert's younger sister Harriet Rebecca.
Hope this helps.
Stella :)
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: fionakeeble on Friday 14 February 14 19:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Stella, thanks for your reply but the dates don't add up, if William was Herbert's father he would have been 9 when he fathered Herbert ?
Fiona
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: SVC on Friday 14 February 14 20:12 GMT (UK)
Sorry Fiona!
Herbert was William's brother so his parents were James and Harriet Hampson. James was born in Runcorn and Harriet was from Stockton Quay near Warrington. I'm getting my Herbert's mixed up. William , Herbert's brother also had a son Herbert who was the brother of my paternal grandmother.
Sorry to confuse you!
Stella
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: KimH77 on Sunday 30 March 14 10:03 BST (UK)
Hi I am the great granddaughter of the "flame" of Robert Owen Hampson; Eliza Cottier. Robert Owen is listed as the father on the birth record of my grandfather Philip.
Does anyone have Roberts date of death?
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: LGH on Saturday 16 April 16 10:25 BST (UK)
Hello

I am a Hampson (b 1947) and still live not so far from Runcorn. I am descended from John who died in 1841 and whose wife then married again (Owen). I would be very interested in finding out anything about the Hampsons who were boatmen, anything before 1800 and seeing any photographs. My grandfather Joseph (a baker, and grandson of John) died of meningitis soon after my father was born.

Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: Anne Roudaut Harris on Sunday 15 December 19 23:33 GMT (UK)
Hi all

I am searching for some information about the hampson family, i have the same james hampson (1832) and Hariet (1834) and would love to have more information as my husband is direct descendant. Please contact me, i would love to get the picture of Hariet and any other information!

PS: i cannot read or send message for some reason
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: spellweaver on Wednesday 27 May 20 20:41 BST (UK)
Did anyone spot this baptism at Daresbury?
26 June 1796  Richard Hampson, son of William and Mary Hampson of Lower Walton, flatman.
In the right area, I would have thought, and the right occupation.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: hoople on Saturday 06 June 20 18:07 BST (UK)
Extracted from a newspaper of 1811 - mention of Richard Hampson, captain of a packet boat sailing from Runcorn to Manchester. Assistant on the boat is Frances Roylance.
Title: Re: Hampson family - Runcorn watermen
Post by: SVC on Thursday 27 May 21 16:01 BST (UK)
Have not posted on this site for several years. Still researching Hampsons but not sure of origins of William Hampson born circa 1770. Charles Hampson of Hale near Bowdon, his supposed father left a will including a substantial amount for his son’s education. Charles was a wealthy man. It doesn’t seem to fit with the watermen. William and Mary baptised their older children in Warrington, St. Elphins. Peter and Ann Hampson had a son William in the early 1770’s, and baptised him at St. Elphins. Peter was a plasterer. William and Mary’s first child was named Peter and baptised in Lymm soon after their marriage. Warrington not far from Lymm where William married Mary Perrin in 1793. Just something else to throw into the mix!
It would be great to hear from anyone still researching the Hampsons.