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Title: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: corisande on Monday 31 October 11 16:18 GMT (UK)

This is from an 19th cent service record

(http://www.grantonline.com/grant-family-genealogy/Tipperary/Moyaliffe/moyaliff-trees/prince-grant/parish-kilvalneg.jpg)

1. I am fairly certain that it is a Protestant Parish
2. The record says near Thurles which is what I expect
3. The chap was living around Drumbane/Moyaliff when he enlisted
4. It looks like "Kilvalneg" but I cannot find a suitable parish in the area

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: Emjaybee on Monday 31 October 11 18:02 GMT (UK)

Hilvaling?

Title: Re: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: corisande on Monday 31 October 11 18:37 GMT (UK)

Thanks

But the trouble is that whatever it is, must be a Tipperary parish, and I can find neither Hivaling nor Kilvalney among Tipperary C of I parishes

Certainly the first letter could be an "H" or a "K"

Title: Re: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: annclare on Monday 31 October 11 18:44 GMT (UK)

There is a Killavinoge -according to the Seanruad site in the PLU of Thurles and in the PLU of Roscrea.
that's all I can think of. It borders  Templemore rather than Thurles CP
See

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/townlands/index.cfm?fuseaction=TownlandsInCivil&civilparishid=2219&civilparish=Killavinoge&citycounty=Tipperary

annclare

Title: Re: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: corisande on Monday 31 October 11 18:51 GMT (UK)

Thanks annclare

That is certainly a runner, unless anyone can come up with anything else

It was probably written down by an English sergeant who enlisted him, and was what the sergeant heard spoken with a Tipperary accent.

His parents were certainly at Moyaliff at other times, and that was where I had expected to find him. However between Thurles and Roscrea is certainly not out of the question, just take a bit of digging to see if I can fine the family thee for a short period.

Title: Re: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: rastafarian on Friday 06 April 12 14:42 BST (UK)

I'd say its kilvalure, it is in the Moyalife townsland and there is a church and cemetery there now. It is near both ballycahill and drombane villages in co. tipperary

see this article that references it! http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1205/1224308582917.html

Title: Re: Can you help me decipher this Tipperary Parish
Post by: corisande on Friday 06 April 12 15:06 BST (UK)

Thanks for that

Looks like a runner - trying to find it on the map (Old OS online) is that the old church just north of Moyaliff House

My notes on Prince Crawford Grant are  click this link  (http://www.grantonline.com/grant-family-genealogy/Tipperary/Moyaliffe/moyaliff-trees/prince-grant/prince-grant.htm)