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Title: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: jdbPA on Friday 28 October 11 03:28 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information about John Barr, (born c 1790), of Beith and his wife Jean Gilmour, (born c 1809).  He appears to have had four sons with Jean, namely Matthew, Francis, David and Allan, and three children with a previous wife, namely Janet, John and William.  His son Francis appears to have gone to Australia, but I'm not sure about the rest.  I think his son Allan was my great - great grandfather.
 
My Allan came to the US after being in Canada, and is listed in an 1861 Montreal census.  He was married to Christina Lamont, and may have been a gardener of some note.  He died in 1902 and had worked for a wealthy Quaker named T Wistar Brown in the suburbs of Philadelphia, PA.  His children were John, Allan, Barbara, and Francis.
Thank you.
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 28 October 11 11:02 BST (UK)
Hi jdbPA

I see from this post here on another forum http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BARR/2011-10/1318352280 that Allan and wife Christina Lamont married in Scotland in 1856.

Reading on there, I think you found his marriage indexed on Familysearch  Not sure if you are aware that you can view the original image of the marriage cert on the official pay site Scotlands People, www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

The marriage cert would include details on his parents and let you work back with confidence.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 28 October 11 11:35 BST (UK)
I posted details earlier on other thread-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,563173.msg4156227.html
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 28 October 11 11:48 BST (UK)
Thanks aghadowey. The other thread has had more reponses now (I will just add the link to this post on that for additional notes).

Monica  :)
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: jdbPA on Friday 28 October 11 16:06 BST (UK)
Sorry about that.  I guess I should have made just one post.
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 28 October 11 16:14 BST (UK)
No need to apologise  :) Just trying to help you get the best response by keeping everything under one main thread. 

Monica
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: jdbPA on Sunday 30 October 11 06:26 GMT (UK)
Have the statutory marriage record and it looks like a match.  Allan Barr is listed as a gardener with his father as John Barr, a farmer and Allan's mother Jane Barr, maiden name Jane Gilmour.

Christina is listed as Christian, a factory worker with her father John Lamont a fisehrman, then the rest is less clear.  I think it has John deceased and mother Barbara Currie formerly Lamont, maiden name Duncan.
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: julie1969 on Tuesday 15 May 12 16:39 BST (UK)
hi i,m malcolm ingram i,m also doing research on my wifes family history her name is diane yvonne her father was david alexander his father was andrew barr from eaglesham renfrewshire who were farmers his father was robert then the other fathers were johns going back to the late 1600s all seem to have farmers in and around ayrshire due to the size of the familys i,m having difficulty tracking there marriages and moved locations feel free to look at my tree it will be under allan ingram on ancestry.good luck hope theres some info there for you.
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 15 May 12 17:55 BST (UK)
Hi Malcolm

Confused am I!

my mothers married name is Andrew   and she  married my dad jack  they got married in 1968 in doncaster south yorkshire  uk,my mum died on the 10th nov 1981 in barnsley south yorkshire.

Monica
Title: Re: John Barr of Beith and Sons
Post by: jdbPA on Thursday 21 June 12 04:08 BST (UK)
Thanks Malcolm.

I took a look at your tree some weeks ago, and didn't see any definite links, but who knows.  I meant to send you an e-mail on ancestry, but I think I forgot.  My tree there is Barr - Bohmwetsch et al.  There is an e-book out there that talks about a Barr family from Ayrshire that farmed, but I don't know if there is a link or not.