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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Sio on Wednesday 26 October 11 14:40 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am looking for 1891 & 1901 details for the family of Thomas JACKSON farmer at Wolsingham, Durham.
There may be two - Thomas Snr b. c. 1863 & Jnr c 1867
Thomas was a widower on the 1881 census
Thanks,
Sio
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Hi cannot believe jnr is 4 years younger, so:-
1891 Census
Thomas Jackson 55 Widower occ Farmer
Thomas 24
Elizabeth Ann 22
Margaret Jane 19
Residing at Bowlees, New Row, Wolsingham
Census ref RG12/4085/63/8
Keyboard86
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Hi Sio
On the 1901 census here are your two Thomas Jacksons
Thomas Jackson Head Widower Farmer aged 65 born c 1836 b Stanhope
Thomas Jackson single " 33 1868 Wolsingham
Margaret Jackson single farmers Daughter 28 1873
b Wolsingham
Anne Ryle Visitor 07 b Swalwell
Living at Bowles Farm, Wolsingham
regards Sandymc
p.s. I think you got the years of the 2 Thomas's wrong lol
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Thanks to both of you. Yes, I put 1863 instead of 1836 oooooops, I don't usually make mistakes like that!
That's great I have now gained another daughter for Thomas - Margaret is not on the 1881, but Elizabeth is.
The other daughter, Sarah Isabella is not with them on 1881 but may be the Sarah B. Jackson with cousins for the census.
She got married in 1892 so she must be somewhere else on the 1891 as Sarah Jackson. (b c 1873 Wolsingham, Durham)
Would you be able to check that for me please, if it is not too much trouble?
You have made my day ;D, that 7 year old Ann Ryle visitor is actually the most important name there - proof that I have the right family of Jacksons - yipppppeeeee
Ann Ryle is the daughter of Sarah Isabella Ryle (née Jackson).
Thanks again!
Sio
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Hi again, on the 1891 is a transcribed Sarah J Jackson aged 17 b Wolsingham shown as adopted daughter to John Hawkes 51 and Sarah Hawkes 48 in Gateshead, Durham Census ref RG12/4189/76/26 is this your lady?
Keyboard86
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I think so Keyboard
I have just found her in the 1881 census with John and Sarah Hawks and
she is classed as the half cousin. As Thomas had lost his wife early, she
could have been ill for a few years beforehand so it would not be unusual
for someone in the family to semi-adopt her to help them out.
Definitely think this is your Sarah Mother of little Ann
Pleased to see we have resolved your problem Sio
regards Sandymc
p.s. I think these are the parents of Thomas born 1836.
William Jackson married Betty (Elizabeth) Hastie on 15th February 1834 in
Sunderland
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Hi again, as Bowlees is prominent as the homestead, just in case you do not have 1841 census:-
William 30
Elizabeth 25
Mary 7
Thomas 5
Hannah 9months
Census ref HO107/308/ 18/30/ 8
Happy researching,
Keyboard86
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Although the initial is Sarah J (maybe an I that looked like a J) I think that is her alright, as she was with the Hawk(e)s in 1881, I will have to find out more about them, as we as a family do not have any knowledge of them. I knew that half cousin was a clue they were probably related.
I am wondering if Sarah's mother was a Hawk(e)s. I do not have her maiden name yet. Must also find out when her mother died. I do hope the Hawk(e)s were good to her.
Adopted daughter is unexpected, maybe it was to inherit? I think formal adoption started in 1926 so she was probably just referred to as adopted. She remained a Jackson til she married.
The fact that they lived in Gateshead is extremely interesting as she ended up in Swalwell nearby. I always wondered how. Is there a street name?
Sio
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Oh that is brilliant to get the previous generations of Jacksons, I have no idea how far back they were farming there. I did wonder was Thomas the first as he is quoted as being born in Stanhope rather than Wolsingham.
I learnt today that Bowlees farm goes back to 1590! Should be more info to be found there so. Unfortunately it looks like there was a fire there last winter destroying a lot of history.
I wonder would that marriage of his parents be in Sunderland beacuse she was from Sunderland?
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Thanks for the 1841, 1881 is the earliest I have til now.
I did not have Thomas Snr's siblings either so that's a new group of relations to track down!
Sio
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Hi
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Hi again, you requested the street name where Sarah I Jackson was living in 1891 with John and Sarah Hawks, it was 12, White Row, Winlaton, Derwent Haugh, as a matter of interest their were other Jackson's in the area b Wolsingham, a Charles aged 14 and a Benjamin aged 25 occ Iron Moulder shown as boarders with Thomas and Elizabeth Thompson at 32, Townley Street, Winlaton, Blaydon.
Census ref RG12/4189/50/37
Keyboard86
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Hi again, to give you some assistance re John Hawk/es he married a Sarah Whitfield in Dec qtr 1861 Gateshead 10a 788, I am still ( as I am sure others) working on the apparent close relationship with the Hawk/es, and the Jackson family, this is John and Sarah in 1871:-
1871 census
John Hawks 31 b Gateshead
Sarah 28 b Harlow Hill Northumberland
Thomas E 8 b Derwenthaugh Durham
Elizabeth J 5 b Derwenthaugh Durham
Residing at Quality Row House, Whickham, Gateshead, Durham
Census ref RG10/5064/50/5
I believe Thomas E aged 8 is named after his father.
Keyboard86
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Hi again, still cannot locate who Thomas's wife is, but hopefully the 1871 will help,
1871 Census
Thomas Jackson 33
Thomas 4
Elizabeth Ann 3
Residing at Bowlees
Census ref RG10/4952/68/6
Cannot read original, is Thomas, Married ?
Keyboard86
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Some baptisms and a marriage at Wolsingham on Familysearch.
3 Nov 1871. Margaret Jane Jackson, parents Thomas and Ann.
2 Aug 1868. Elizabeth Ann Jackson and Thomas Jackson, parents Thomas and Ann.
29 April 1866. William Jackson, parents Thomas and Ann.
30 Jul 1865. Thomas Jackson and Ann Whitfield. Grooms father William Jackson. Brides father Thompson Whitfield.
Alan.
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At last ! so it looks like Ann Whitfield is sister to the Sarah who married John Hawk/es?
Keyboard86
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I think they are probably cousins. Sarah is born Harlow Hill in Northumberland, but in 1851 census her widowed mother Elizabeth Whitfield, and older sister Jane Whitfield are both down as born Wolsingham. In 1841 census, the Whitfield family are in Harlow Hill. Head is John Whitfield, Shoemaker, b. 1801, Not born in County. I suspect he will turn out to be Thompson Whitfields brother.
Ann Jackson is living with her father Thompson Whitfield in 1871 census, with an extra 1 year old daughter Hannah.
Alan.
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Hi this looks like Ann in 1861:-
8) 8)
Thompson Whitfield 48 occ Farmer
Elizabeth 46
Ann 20
John 18
William 15
Elizabeth 12
George 7
Residing at Meadhope Street, Wolsingham
Census ref RG09/3727/31/16
All born Wolsingham
Keyboard86
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Hi again, cannot locate the Whitfield family in 1851, but here is 1841, with what appears to be Thompsons mother?
1841 census
Sarah Whitfield 70
Elizabeth 35
Thompson 25
Elizabeth 25
Ann 3 months
Margaret Proud 15
Residing at Meadhope Street, Wolsingham
Census ref HO107/308/ 18/59/ 21
Possible marriage Thomas Thompson Whitfield to Elizabeth Galley March 1841 Weardale v 24 page 261
Keyboard86
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Hi,
You have all been busy! Thanks - too late to for me to take in at this hour, I will look at it all again. ;D
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Thanks for the 1871 Jacksons - strange Mrs Jackson is not there. She would have been pregnant with Margaret at the time, but only early on.
So she is with her father with another child Hannah? Do you think that child died so?
I must get this all down on paper now there are Whitfields too.
I was looking yesterday at Wolsingham Jacksons and found of all names, a christening of a Whitfield Jackson, son to John & Eve in 1816. Not only that but a second son of the same name to the same couple in 1818. So there may be Whitfield connections further back. Unusual first name for a child so it must have been important. No link to them as such but will keep it in mind.
I discovered references to Jacksons in Wolsingham back to the 17th century, so will have to see how far back I can get with my Jacksons. :)
Sio
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Hi,
Back to the 1871 - Where is Ann Jackson living with her father?
I see that in the baptisms there is a William Jackson born to Thomas and Ann in 1866. I wonder if he died young. It would make sense that he would be the same family as Thomas' father was William.
I did however come across an Alice Jackson christened in Wolsingham 1872 to a Thomas and Ann Jackson, who appears to be a different family, in Brandon & Byshottles on the 1881 census and she is the only child born in Wolsingham.
Sio.
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Hi Sio, this is Ann in 1871:-
Thompson Whitfield 56
Elizabeth 55
Ann Jackson 31 Daughter/Married
Hannah Jackson 1 Grandaughter
George W Whitfield 17 Son
Tom Whitfield 9 Son
Residing at Meadhope Street, Wolsingham, Weardale, Durham.
Census Ref RG10/4952/35/13
Keyboard86
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Thanks Keyboard that's wonderful. It's amazing to gain another sister for Sarah. Do you think Ann & Hannah were living there or just visiting?
I wonder why the Whitfields were living in the middle of the village when he was a farmer. Maybe he rented land without a house?
Sio.
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Hi again Sio, I think Ann was just visiting with the newish born Hannah, who I cannot locate in 1881?
Also a couple of marriages to add to your tree:-
George Westgarth to Margaret Jane Jackson June 1904 Weardale 10a 543
Robert Christopher Lowe to Elizabeth Ann Jackson Dec 1898 Weardale 10a 483
Also maybe Meadhope Street was a lot nearer the "Fields" in 1851/71, than the modern google maps may appear to show!
Also I note from your list of the families you are interested in, the Longstaff's and Ryle families, in 1881 Margaret Jackson is visiting John and Margaret Longstaff, and in 1901, an Annie Ryle aged 7 is visiting Thomas and family at Bowlees Farm.
Keyboard86
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Hi,
Yes I have not located Hannah in 1881. I do not know if she died young or age 11 in 1881 was with another relation like Sarah was.
I have found a Mary Hannah Jackson b 1870 marriage in 1891 in Wolsingham to a Michael Jackson Metcalfe (related??!!) and bride's father is a Thomas Jackson!
Coincidence or little Hannah originally Mary Hannah I don't know. The names did not filter through the generations.
There's also another Mary Hannah Jackson marrying a George Metcalfe in Wolsingham in 1846. Probably another coincidence.
On familysearch.org there does not appear to be a christening record for Hannah 1870, just Hannah 1841, Thomas' sister. I can't see one for the Mary Hannah Jackson b 1870 in Wolsingham either.
Sio.
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Thanks for those marriages - you've struck gold with that Westgarth one because that is most definitely correct - we found an elderly relation who told us Sarah's sister married a Westgarth but we did not know who. Up to a week ago, we did not know how many siblings Sarah had!
Yes I did think the fields might be nearer back then, but I had a look at the street as it is today and it looks pretty established in the heart of the village. I guess one day I might find a map of back then.
I am presuming that Thompson Whitfield would be classed as farm labourer or something like that if he worked on a farm owned by someone else. He must have known the Jacksons through farming anyway.
That's great to find Margaret Jackson visiting on the 1881. Bedburn is a new name to me, no previous mention of it, but I see it is not far from Wolsingham. I have no idea who those Longstaffs are. The Longstaff I had mentioned in my sig is someone who married into another side of the family, in Northumberland and in the 20th century! Right , I will have to keep an eye out for Longstaffs now. The Lowe name is complete news to me, something to work with....
Sio.
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Hi Sio, I think Hannah in 1871 is a Mary Hannah Jackson b March 1870 Weardale 10a 309
In 1881 she is visiting Thompson and Elizabeth Whitfield as Mary aged 10 Grandaughter at Meadhope Street, Census Ref RG11/4939/44/34
1901 Census
Michael J Metcalfe 34 occ Foreman Steelworks
Mary H 30
Thomas J 8
Robert W 6
George 3
Residing at Upper Town, Walsingham
All born Walsingham
Census Ref RG13/4662/19/29
In 1891 Michael J Metcalfe is shown as Nephew/Single aged 24 to Elizabeth Goodburn Widow aged 69 in Walsingham.
Keyboard86