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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Devon => England => Devon Lookup Requests => Topic started by: June Horsham on Monday 24 October 11 17:59 BST (UK)
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My father Thomas Henry HORSHAM was born on 20 October 1911, in, I believe, Heavitree Devon (St Thomas). I am trying to trace the names and dates of birth of his parents. My father joined the Navy in 1931. The family moved to Wareham (or East Stoke) Dorset, where he met my mother, they married in 1936. The HORSHAMS seem very elusive, I have found a Thomas Henry who joined the Navy in 1902, his birth place was Exeter. My father's father may have been a Harry HORSHAM, I only knew his mother as 'little Nan'.
I would appreciate any help you can give me to get me started.
June Martin
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The obvious and most accurate way to start is to buy your father's birth certificate. That said, FREEBMD shows a registration for a Thomas H HORSHAM in St Thomas district, December qtr 1911 vol 5b page 88, with mother's maiden name given as AYRE.
A marriage is shown in Tiverton district, September qtr 1907 between a Harry Stewart HORSHAM and a Jessie AYRE.
The 1911 census shows a Harry HORSHAM aged 37, a farm bailiff, born Sidbury, his wife Jessie aged 35, born Witheridge (married 4 years, 2 children born, only one surviving) and a daughter Joy aged 1-1/2 born Countess Weir. The family were living in Countess Weir. You can use earlier censuses to locate their respective parents - 1891 is available at http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl and the 1881 is available at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
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Many thanks for your help, I will follow-up as you suggest.
June Martin
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Welcome to Rootschat June.
FreeBMD has this Marriage;
John HORSHAM, Sept 1871, Honiton, 5b 38
Possible and likely Spouse on page is Elizabeth Emma STUART
1871 Census
Green Head,
Sidbury, Devon
RG10/2043/38/7
John HORSHAM, 59, Head, Mar, Butter Factor, born Chagford
Sarah, 51, Wife, Mar, born Clyst Hyden
JOHN, 22, Son, Unm, Groom, born North Bovey
Emma STUART, 22, Visitor, Servant Domestic, born Honiton
1861 Census
Sandcombe,
Sidbury, Devon
RG9/1379/30/4
John HORSHAM, 45, Head, Mar, Dairyman, born Chagford
Sarah, 40, Wife, Mar, Dairywoman, born Chothaydon
Sarah Ann, 15, Daug, Unm, Dairywoman, born North Bovey
JOHN, 12, Son, born North Bovey
1851 basically the same (except everyone is 10yrs younger and John is a Farm Bailiff) so looks like only 2 Children born to John/Sarah.
1851 they are in the Newton Abbot Reg District so this is probably the Marriage;
John HORSHAM, June 1845, Newton Abbot, 10 259
On the same page is Sarah Salway CARNELL
Sarah Selway CARNALL was Christened 15 June 1820, Clyst Hydon, Devon to JOHN/SARAH
(Source Familysearch Pilot)
Trish :)
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You are very welcome. You 'may' have a problem with finding Jessie AYRE - I found her in 1891 aged 16 b. Witheridge, in service. Her birth regn is shown in South Molton district (which covers Witheridge) March qtr 1876 vol 5b page 465. In 1881 her name was spelled Jessey AYRE and her parents were Thomas & Ellen.
Thomas AYRE married Ellen HAMMETT/HOMMETT/HAMMELL/HOMMELL (there appears to be some uncertainty regarding the transcription) in Tiverton district vol 5b page 685, March qtr 1872.
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OK Elizabeth Emma Stuart is probably illegitimate and the Daug of a Susannah Stuart/Stewart.
You may need her Birth Cert to confirm my theory as I cant find a Christening for her
I'll start at the beginning;
MARRIAGE IGI Extracted
John STUART
Mary SELWAY
13 November 1821, Widworthy, Devon
1841 Census
Silon St,
Honiton, Devon,
HO107/200/22/Honiton
John STEWART, 46, Ag Lab
Mary, 40
SUSANNAH, 19
John, 15, Butchers Apprentice
Edwin?, 10
Mary, 7
Nathaniel, 4
Sarah, 6mths
All born in County
1851 Census
Honiton, Devon
HO107/1863/211/46
Mary STUART, 52, Head, Widow, Washerwoman, born Cotleigh
Susanna, 29, Daug, Unm, Dressmaker, born Widworthy
Nathaniel James, 14, Son, Shoemaker, born Ottery St Mary
Sarah, 10, Daug, Lacemaker, born Honiton
William, 6, Son, Scholar, born Honiton
ELIZABETH EMMA, 3, Grand/Daug, born Honiton
On Transcription for Elizabeth Emma Stuart it says "Elizabeth Ann Stuart, 3, born c 1848, Grandson, born Honiton"
When you actually look at the image it is Grand/Daug and Elizabeth Emma Stuart.
1861 Census
High Street,
Honiton, Devon
RG9/1376/33/20
Mary STUART, 63, Head, Widow, Laundress, born Cotleigh
Sarah, 20, Daug, Unm, Lacemaker, born Honiton
William, 17, Son, Unm, Butchers Apprentice, born Honiton
EMMA, 14, Grand/Daug, Unm, Dressmaker, born Honiton
Catherine, 18mths, Grand/Daug, born Honiton
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Mary SELWAY Christened 14 October 1798, Cotleigh, Devon to SAMUEL/SUSANNAH
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Many thanks to you both. I am amazed that I got so much information in a day
June.
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Your welcome :)
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If you need any more help, don't hesitate to ask.
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Hi I've recently started to research my family history when I came across across your post. My family is also Horsham from Devon so I was wondering how you managed to get on with your family tree and if there is a link?
My grandad told me his grandfather (Arthur Horsham) had a brother named 'Harry'. On the 1891 cencus he is named as 'Henry' Horsham est DOB 1883.
Their father was James (known as John) Horsham and mother Caroline Susan Horsham nee Slocombe.
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Hi,
June's husband here, as she doesn't really seem interested in her family! As you will see from previous postings there wasa Harry Stewart HORSHAM who was a farm bailiff at Countess Weir shown in the 1911 census - do you think that is your man?
There was another farm bailiff called John HORSHAM - also see postings. A(nother?) John HORSHAM from Devon is buried in the churchyard of the 'lost village' of Tyneham, Dorset.
Regards,
Roy Martin