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Title: Victuallers in London
Post by: LinnettW on Sunday 23 October 11 22:18 BST (UK)
     I need help to find Robert Osborn, Victualler of Greys Inn Lane London.   I am guessing that the time frame would be after 1800. Sorry I cannot be more specific than that. If it is him, he and wife Elizabeth Jackson Osborn had their last child  in Little Haddam in 1792. There were probably lots of Victuallers in the area or possibly thats his home address with his occupation. Did victuallers live on the job. 

Lynette
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: Pastmagic on Sunday 23 October 11 22:44 BST (UK)
See:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=82368
A much earlier person of the same name and trade at the same place.
Can't find anyting obvious in the 1841 census.
PM
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: John915 on Sunday 23 October 11 23:27 BST (UK)
Victuallers were basically grocers, so one would assume that he lived above his shop which would be in greys inn rd. He could however also have been a victualler to the army or the navy and that was his home address. In that case he would have been supplying one or the other with all their food and hardware supplies other than arms and munitions.
It's also possible he was a licenced victualler in which case he would have run a pulic house and most likely lived above. If you know what no greys inn rd it should be possible to find out what sort of premises it was at that time or maybe still is.
John915
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: John915 on Sunday 23 October 11 23:28 BST (UK)
That should be "public house". John915
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: Pastmagic on Sunday 23 October 11 23:40 BST (UK)
Another Mr. Osborne in the right place at the right time:
http://www.diamond.ndo.co.uk/BanksWilliam.html
but not the right trade...
PM
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 24 October 11 08:05 BST (UK)
You might find something here if he was a licensed victualler

http://deadpubs.co.uk/
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: LinnettW on Thursday 27 October 11 07:14 BST (UK)


My thanks to you PastMagic, John915 and Rosie99 for the information you have given.  I will look at these sites and see what can be found and they may lead to other info.  No number on Greys Inn Road unfortunately or the year.  The old story of 'if only someone had put one more bit of info down'. Thats family research isn't it.   My thanks.

LinnetW
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 27 October 11 08:37 BST (UK)
Hi

Where did the original info come from?
"Robert Osborn, Victualler of Greys Inn Lane London"

The source of the info together with the spelling Greys MAY be an added clue.

(Licensed)Victualler MAY alternatively have been "Beer House Keeper"

Ray

Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: Gossip64 on Thursday 27 October 11 21:11 BST (UK)
Hello,

Just reading through this thread, the spelling should be Gray's Inn Lane, it is now Gray's Inn Road. You can google the road and the history of the area running from Holborn up through Clerkenwell is described. This info might help in your quest.

Bye Gossip64
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: LinnettW on Thursday 27 October 11 21:48 BST (UK)
To Gossip64 and Ray and all.

     My mistake in my last post . It is Greys Inn Lane. I also don't remember where I got the information.  It may not even be a family connection but I had made a note of it some time ago due to someone claiming on their tree that he was an Inn Keeper. I decided to look into it and see where it led me.  Robert was born in Little Haddam Hertfordshire c1752, married there 1777 and his 9th and last child was born there 1792.  Would I find  records of Little Haddam that might help find Robert and his occupation.

LinnettW
Title: Re: Victuallers in London
Post by: Pastmagic on Thursday 27 October 11 22:25 BST (UK)
http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/places/places-l/little-hadham.htm
Suggest you try contacting this site.