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Title: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: Lin!!! on Thursday 20 October 11 10:52 BST (UK)
I have a marriage certificate for Hannah Louisa Willcox to David Edward Powell, at St Josephs church, Camperdown in NSW 1907.  On the certificate it states that Hannah's father was Henry Willcox, painter, whereabouts unknown and her mother was Jane Harrison, deceased. Hannah was a minor, 20 years old, living at Golden Grove. I have searched NSW BDM and other sites but am unable to find a birth certificate for Hannah or anything on Jane Harrison or Henry Willcox.  Could anyone advise where to next.  Thanks
Title: Re: Willcox/Harrison
Post by: majm on Thursday 20 October 11 11:04 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Some thoughts ...

As she was not yet 21 years, who gave consent to her marriage?  They should be related to her, and perhaps searching for them would lead to her.

Her marriage cert should give you where she was born, her occupation and her age and her status, was she a widow?

What were the names of the witnesses?  Could they be related to her

She may have been born interstate or overseas ... Have you tried the other colonies, or searched through passenger lists inbound to any of the colonies.

On her d.c., what is recorded re the question How Long in the colonies, and also for her place of birth

Hope these thoughts help...

Cheers,  JM



Title: Re: Willcox/Harrison
Post by: ennael on Thursday 20 October 11 11:10 BST (UK)
Just for clarification:
NSW BDM have the marriage registered as following:

8341/1907 
POWELL  David E 
WILLCOX  Hannah D 
Registered at Newtown

Leanne

Title: Re: Willcox/Harrison
Post by: sue21757 on Thursday 20 October 11 11:14 BST (UK)
Hi Lin

Have found a death notice for a Henry Wilcox beloved father of Hannah Powell.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15848978?searchTerm=%22henry%20wilcox%22&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices|category%3AFamily+Notices|||l-title=The+Sydney+Morning+Herald...|titleid%3A35

Cheers Sue
Title: Re: Willcox/Harrison
Post by: ennael on Thursday 20 October 11 11:21 BST (UK)
The corresponding death registration to the death notice found by Sue gives Henrys' father names as John.

13655/1919 
WILLCOCKS  Henry
Father John
Registered at Drummoyne

Leanne
Title: Re: Willcox/Harrison
Post by: majm on Thursday 20 October 11 11:40 BST (UK)
Possibly a side track

NSW Electoral Roll 1913 
DRUMMOYNE, polling at Mortlake

Margaretta WILLCOCKS domestic duties, Cabarita Rd,
Percy Harding WILLCOCKS, labourer, Cabarita Rd


NSW ER 1903
PARKES, polling at : Drummoyne, Five Dock, Dobroyd,

NONE with surname Wilcox, Willcox, Wilcock, Wilcocks, Willcocks

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: Lin!!! on Friday 21 October 11 00:19 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for your input, you have given me renewed hope. On the copy I have of the marriage certificate the writing is hard to read but the consent seems to be given by a W Ridley Dep. Re...Gen....being ...diary of minors.  Would anyone know what this department was, as I could possibly start searching there?
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: majm on Friday 21 October 11 00:36 BST (UK)
Can you take a snip of that part of that mc so that some of the RChatters can help decipher that bit please. Don't attach an image of all the mc as that is a copyright issue.

Give the snip a simple file name and attach it to a reply,  ;D    (Click on the Attach a photograph or image and other options button on the RChat dialogue box that you use to type up your posts.  It is in blue above the Post button.)

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: majm on Friday 21 October 11 03:21 BST (UK)
 ;D  ;D  ;D

Found Mr Ridley  ;) at the Registrar General's .... as in the NSW BDM Registrar General's Office in Sydney...

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14324575 17 July 1900  SMH where he was attending a funeral as a representative of  the Reg Gen's dept. 

I will try to find info about the "diary of minors",  I haven't known of that before your post, so I will be thrilled when I get that sorted, it may well be full of information about other minors who sought to marry before turning 21 years of age, and unable to obtain the consent of their parents.

Cheers, from a happy JM, delighted with something "new" to check out re the NSW BDM ways in the decades pre WWI.
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: majm on Friday 21 October 11 03:35 BST (UK)
Trying to avoid side-tracking but

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14392092 SMH 19 June 1901

Mr Ridley was not just the Deputy Registrar General in 1901 but also the Registrar of Vital Statistics ... He was the Census taker  ;) 

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: majm on Friday 21 October 11 04:19 BST (UK)
 ;D

I have sent an email to the NSW BDM asking for further information about the diary, where it currently is, and if it has been transcribed.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: majm on Monday 30 January 12 23:18 GMT (UK)
It turned out that

Mr Ridley was not just the Deputy Registrar General, nor just the Registrar of Vital Statistics, but he was also the Registrar for Wards of the State, and thus the senior public servant appointed by the Cabinet of the NSW government to the formal position of   "Guardian of Minors."   


Cheers,  JM   
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: tedscout on Saturday 04 February 12 01:43 GMT (UK)
There is this birth could possibly be Henry

Henry Wilcox 1856
Father John Wilcox
Mother Louisa
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume # V1856214 149
Title: Re: WILLCOX/HARRISON information
Post by: Lin!!! on Saturday 04 February 12 09:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you, I have seen that one and am pretty certain that it is his.