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I am researching the Lomas family from Ashton-under-lyne.
My grandmother Lillian Lomas nee Ellis born 1908 and Grandfather William lomas born 1908
I have a marriage cert of Samuel and Nellie Cullen married Oct 29Th 1904.. Sams father is William and Nellie's father is Charles.
Can some one please help me to find out how many brothers and sister Samuel and Nellie had.
Thanks Sue
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Hi Sue, can only start the team off with 1901 abridged version:-
William Lomas Widower 57
Mary 24
Elizabeth A 23
Samuel 19
Joseph 17
Eliza 15 b Dukinfield
Aaron 12 b Dukinfield
All others b Stalybridge
Residing at 24, Grey Street, Hurst, A U L
Census ref RG13/3800/95/35
In 1891 mother is Eliza aged 50 and a brother Dan aged 19
Keyboard86
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I am researching the Lomas family from Ashton-under-lyne.
My grandmother Lillian Lomas nee Ellis born 1908 and Grandfather William lomas born 1908
I have a marriage cert of Samuel and Nellie Cullen married Oct 29Th 1904.. Sams father is William and Nellie's father is Charles.
Can some one please help me to find out how many brothers and sister Samuel and Nellie had.
Thanks Sue
Moderator comment: posts merged to avoid duplication of effort and to keep all the information together.
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hello
Could this be Nellie??
1901 RG13/3785 folio 104 page 25 Ashton-under-Lyne
Lancashire
98 Wood Street
Richard Longsden age 23 Coal Miner Hewer born Dunsfield Cheshire
Mary Agnes wife age 25 rest born Ashton U Lyne Lancashire
Thomas son age 10 months
Joseph McDonald stepson age 3
Charles Cullen boarder age 44 gen lab
Margaret wife age 48
Nellie dau age 19
Charles son age 17 coal miner
1891 Rg12/3279 folio 18 page 30 Ashton under Lyne
Brooks Street
4 Lodges Yard
Charles Cullen age 35 farm lab all born Ashton
Margaret wife age 39 cotton operative
James son age 12
Ellen dau age 10
Charles son age 7
Mary McDonald stepdaughter age 16
1881 Ashton under Lyne
55 Wood Street
Chas Cullen age 24 all born Ashton spinner cotton
Margaret wife age 28 char woman
James son age 2
Mary dau age 6
Sarah Thornley lodger
Pam
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1891 Census
80 Vaudry St,
Dukinfield, Cheshire
RG12/3291/91/5
William LOMAS, 43, Head, Mar, Furnace Stoker
Eliza, 40, Wife, Mar
Dan, 19, Son, Coal Miner
Mary, 15, Daug, Servant
Eliza A, 13, Daug, Sterr in Cotton/Operative
SAMUEL, 13, Son, Scholar
Joseph, 6, Son, Scholar
Eliza, 5, Daug
Aaron, 3, Son
All born Stalybridge except Eliza/Aaron (youngest Children) who are born Dukinfield
1881 we have (you can check in on Familysearch)
William LOMAS, 35
Elizabeth Ann, 30
Dan, 9
Mary, 5
William, 1
Charlotte BRUNT, 55, Servant, Widower, general Servant
Trish :)
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Hello
1891 Samuel is a 9
1881 Dunkinfield
Lomas children
Dan son age 9
Mary dau age 5
Elizabeth Ann dau age 3
William son age 1
1901 RG13/3800 folio 95 page 35 Hurst Lancashire rest district Ashton under Lyne
24 Grey Street
William Lomas widower age 57 Stalybridge
Mary dau age 24
Elizabeth A dau age 23
Samuel son age 19 Coal Hewer
Joseph son age 17 coal hewer
Eliza dau age 15
Aaron? transcribed Hiram son age 12
Pam
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Hi is it me or has Elizabeth Ann died, to be replaced by a new wife Eliza given age diffs in later children?
Had a rethink possibly not, 1871/ Marriage anyone!
Keyboard86
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Hi Keyboard
I have only just started this interest so I am a Little lost with it all.... I tried to do a small search in 2005 but then i have had other things to do ....
All i know is My grandfather married my grandmother in 1927and they were both 18.. William Lomas lived at Ellison st, and lillian Ellis lived at church street.. As i have said above i have a marriage certificate for Samuel and Nellie (Cullen) Oct 1904.
Samuel lived at furnace street and Nellie lived at Skye street.. if this may help
The marriage took place Oct 1904 to Samuel and Nellie.. The fathers names on the marriage certificate are William Lomas and Charles Cullen
Thanks Sue
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Sue,
In answer to your oiginal post:
"Can someone please help me to find out how many brothers and sisters Samuel and Nellie had."
You would have to check the births and death indexes to find the siblings, as well as the censuses - This would prove costly, as at the moment the only sure way is to purchase copies of the certificates.
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ has the BMD's for the area.
From Family Search:
Samuel Lomas age 22 m 29 Oct 1904 Ellen Cullen St. Mark, Dukinfield, Cheshire
Father: William Lomas Ellen's father Charles Cullen
William Lomas m 12 Mar 1927 Lilian Ellis Ashton-under-Lyne (St Peter), Lancashire
Father: Samuel Lomas Lilian's father Richard Ellis
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Hi sue I was wondering if we might be related. I'm trying to trace my father in laws family. His name,was Samuel lomas and he was married to Margaret McCarthy. I think Samuels parents were Samuel lomas and Ellen Cullen. Unfortunately we have little info as my husbands father died when my husband was a child If you think this matches please could you contact me. Many thanks
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Hi Angela...My great grandfather was Samuel Lomas born 1882...Died 1953 ..Whats dates are you looking at ...Sue
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My father in law was from Aston under lyne born approx 1911 and I only have very vague information. I know he had a brother bill/William and that their father was also Samuel but this is all we know. I know they were Catholic. My father in law was married twice firstly to Margaret McCarthy and then to Doris Barnett. We thought my father in laws dob was 30/09/1911 but think even this is incorrect. Is there any connection to your family tree? We live in Staffordshire england !! I have nothing on Cullen as I've only just started trying to trace this line sorry x
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Well it may look we maybe related.....My grandfather was William Lomas born 1909 and his father was Samuel Lomas B 1882 and my grandfather had a brother Samuel Lomas who had around 10 children..andhiswife was called Margaret Lomas...I recall my mother who was a Margaret also talking about too many Margarets in the family ....So if ur Samuel had lots of children...this maybe the right connection....I will send you my private email thou private message in rootschat ..
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According to the 1939 register, Samuel Lomas was born 30th September 1912 wife Margaret born 27th July 1916. they had three children at the time and were living at 30A Bridge Street, Stalybridge. Samuel was a Cloth Bailler Army Ordnance (Heavy.)
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Samuel Lomas married Nellie Cullen in 1904 at Dukinfield St Marks.
Births
1909 William LOMAS mmn CULLEN registered Ashton Town
1910 Nellie LOMAS mmn CULLEN registered Ashton Town
1912 Samuel LOMAS mmn CULLEN registered Ashton Town
1915 Mary LOMAS mmn CULLEN registered Ashton Town
1921 Eliza LOMAS mmn CULLEN registered Ashton Town
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The 1939 register (On Findmypast) has Samuel and Ellen transcribed as Tomas. Samuel's birth date is 15th February 1882 and Ellen's is 11th June 1882 - they were living at 12 Ellison Street, Ashton under Lyne. Samuel is a Coal Hewer.