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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: McGreevy on Thursday 13 October 11 09:34 BST (UK)
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Hi
Am looking for information on Fred Yeowart , his next of kin on his attestation papers is his sister Miss Catherine Yeowart, 45 Foxhill Street, Liverpool, England.
I have his NAA record and AWM information but would appreciate any other information on this man.
Many thanks
McG
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Newspaper story on him:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/42613663
If you search his name there are several references to the story.
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Thanks Merlin.
Will look for the other articles regarding Fred.
Many thanks
McG
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I was wondering if your gentleman had lost parts of his legs. There are several articles on that man the newspapers.
Regards
Jam
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Hi Mc G,
This is an unusual surname, so I have had a quick look at other WWI chaps with same surname, with digitised records at NAA. There's one for a David Yeowart, his n o k was his widowed Mum. At page 32 of 56 of his records, theres correspondence dated 10 June 1967 with both an East St Kilda address and the then phone no for that chap. Perhaps there's a family connection back to your Fred? I am not sure, but your inquisitive family history quests could perhaps put the other YEOWART chaps who served in the AIF on your horizon :-X
Cheers, JM
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Hi McG
This doesn't match with Fred's age in his WW1 service records, or in the newspaper article that Merlin found..but as I see that his father's name was Robert (and he had a sister Katherine) I can't help but think that this imight be your family in the 1901 census:
RG13; Piece: 3439; Folio: 129; Page: 38
58 Wendell Street, Toxteth Park
Robert Yeowart, 37, Insurance Agent, b. Liverpool
Rosina S Yeowart, wife, 35, b. Liverpool
Frederick S Yeowart, son, 15, Office Boy (Cotton Brokers) b. Liverpool
Kathrena Yeowart, dtr, 13, b. Liverpool
Gertrude Yeowart, dtr, 11, b. Liverpool
Charles Yeowart, son, 9, b. Liverpool
Florence Yeowart, dtr, 7, b. Liverpool
Dazey
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Wondering if this is his death
1954
Frederick YEOWART
Age: 59
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Number: 2968
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Judith
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Hi there,
I think in 1925 there were TWO chaps named Frederick YEOWART enrolled in Qld, but perhaps it is the same chap, moving from one address to the other.
One was a wardsman at the General Hospital at Ingham
One was a yardman at the Denison Hotel at Bowen
I think both those occupations would require standing and ambulating, but I also note that from the NAA service records, Fred Yeowart there's correspondence from Fred regarding his loss of a medal while working for/from/at the Denison Hotel. He was canvassing for the Husol Manufacturing Coy. (page 7 of 17)
Cheers, JM
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Hi McG
Page 9 of those NAA papers has Fred at 74 Burrows St Port Melbourne in March 1935 and he notes that in May 1930 he was in West Queensland. So he certainly moved around a far bit, so Judith's 1954 sighting may well be him. I have not found him on the Electoral Rolls though after that 1925 sighting. Sorry,
Cheers, JM
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Fremantle Cemetery
Date of death: 1 Dec 1954
Frederick Yeowart, age 59
Roman Catholic
Grantee: Frederick Yoewart (sic)
Section MON CC, Gravesite 1088
Dazey
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Notice in the West Australian (Perth 7 Dec 1954)
YEOWART - On 1 Dec 1954 at Hollywood, Frederick (Jimmy) Yeowart, of His Majesty's Hotel, Fremantle, sincere friend of Ted Dorsett
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Funeral notice (7 Dec) says that Frederick (Jimmy) was late of the 2nd light horse, 1st AIF
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Hi
Thank you all, Fred has been elusive up till now.
Thanks Dazey for finding his death notice, I would never have thought of WA. JM I think Fred was a bit of a nomad by the sounds of him. Question is though when did he arrive in Australia?
McG
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Hi,
1922 Queensland Electoral Roll
Fred Yeowart
General Hospital, Dalby.
Wardsman.
Regards
Gerry
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A Fred YEOWART arrived 3rd Class on 17th July 1910 in Sydney on the "Persia" from London.
His calling was Naval ( I think that's what it reads)
On his WW1 record Fred had stated that he had served 1 year in the Royal Auxillary and was discharged because of time expired. Maybe Royal Auxillary has some affiliation with the Royal Navy hence Naval as his occupation/calling on the shipping record!
Could be your Fred.
Gerry
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Hi Gerry
Thanks for the information on Fred. Also found a record of Fred Yeowart being hit by a car in 1926.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fld/ What I find interesting is the mention of Fred's feet when he stated in another article that he lost his legs due to an explosion at Pozieres during WW1.
Curiouser and Curiouser
McG
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Ted Dorsett from Dazey 999's earlier post was the Publican of "His Majesty's Hotel".
Australian Electoral Rolls
1954, Fremantle.
Dorsett Edward George, His Majesty's Hotel, publican.
Edward George Dorsett also served in the 1st AIF.
Regards
Gerry
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Bit concerned that the 1911 census index on the FamilySearch website shows a Frederick Yeowart, age 24, b. Toxtetch, in an 'institution' in Margate, Kent. Also...a Frederick John Yeowart, born 4 July 1886 died in 1973 in Birkenhead, Cheshire.
Do we think there were 2 Frederick Yeowarts? 1 born 1886 (Frederick John) and another born c.1895?
However, the fact that Fred is showing in the 1911 census might be due to...
Arrival 17 Jully 1910
Mr Fred Yeowart (naval)
arrived London from Aden on board the Persia, a ship belonging to the Peninsula & Orient Steam Navigation Co Ltd. So was he a crew member?
It looks as though there were definitely 2 Fred Yeowarts from Liverpool - but where's the birth of the Fred born c.1895? ???
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23 Nov 1912 - a Frederick Yeowart of 48 Fielding Street (son of Robert Yeowart) married Elizabeth Coote at Sacred Heart church, Liverpool.
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Just re-reading Fred's WW1 service record on the Australian Archives site.
a. In July 1916 he was 22 years, 1 month old - so born c.June 1894 in Liverpool - but no birth entry found
b. says his religion was CofE - but buried RC cemetery, Fremantle
c. why join the army when he had naval experience?
There HAVE to have been 2 Freds? I must admit I'm very confused..apologies :-\
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Hi,
1922 Queensland Electoral Roll
Fred Yeowart
General Hospital, Dalby.
Wardsman.
Regards
Gerry
I've just spotted Fred Yeowart, 1919 Qld Electoral Roll , General Hospital Dalby, Wardsman.
Wardsman needed to do a great deal of walking, pushing trolleys, attending to patient requests ...
Cheers, JM
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Hi JM
Getting more interesting indeed. He would certainly have to walk if he was a warder. And thanks Dazey, the puzzle remains where is Fred Yeowart's birth.
Fred arriving back from war http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fm2/
Many thanks
McG
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Heavens what a mystery - looks like 2 or maybe 3 chaps of the same name. I've summarised what we have as I keep having to go back and forth and it's beginning to drive me nutz!
I think all of this is the one person but his origins............................ ::)
From NAA WW1 record:
Fred YEOWART, b Liverpool (Eng),
Birthdate: May or June 1894 (states his age as 22y 1 month on 22/5/1916),
Father: Robert YEOWART
Sister: Katherine YEOWART
Family address: 45 Foxhill St, Liverpool, UK
Enlisted at Brisbane, 22/5/1916
Previously served in Royal Artillery for one year, time expired.
Arrived Suez, 20 Jun, 1917
He seems to have been ill most of the time he was in Egypt, although there was 9 days AWOL.
After being dangerously ill with a gastric ulcer he was declared medically unfit and returned to Australia (Sydney, then Brisbane), Feb 1918.
1929requests new Returned Soldier badge as his was lost at Bowen Hotel, 'up north' while he was 'canvassing' for Husol Manufacturing Coy.
1935, at 74 Burrows St, Port Melbourne
Statement that he lost his badge out of his pocket in West Queensland, May 1930, and also lost his discharge papers on June 28, 1930 in Qld
There is no mention, except for one reference of dermatitis, to any foot or leg injury.
From TROVE
1918 Frank YEOWART of Hope St, South Brisbane taken to hospital suffering from poisoning.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/20261787
1926 - an account of him being knocked down by a car in Brisbane which resulted in him being critically injured (no mentionof the legs although the article mentions him having a possible spinal injury)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/21048346
1945, Frank YEOWART, 49, a legless war pensioner of Wakefield St, Adelaide, pleaded guilty to behaving indecently and then giving a false name to police.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/48679748
Then the strange wheelchair journey stories in 1948/49 giving his age as 54. In one of these he tells that his legs were lost in 1915 in Pozieres, France and he had been given the wheelchair by the Repatriation Dept.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49931976
1949 In Toowoomba, Fred YEOWART found guilty of assaulting a girl under 17 - sentenced to 3 months gaol. This article also mentions the amputations.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49715024
Judith
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Hi Judith,
Re the trove article for 1945, that Fred was a recent arrival to Adelaide from Broken Hill and was about to go to Brisbane !
And thanks for that summary, it is a great help :)
Cheers, JM
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Hi Judith
Thanks for the summary , it helps a lot. Strange that there is no mention in his NAA record of him losing his legs. I suppose it will have to stay a mystery.
Many thanks to all for your help in finding information about Fred Yeowart.
McG
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Parents marriage:
YEOWART Robert m. FALLOWS Rosina Sarah Mar Qtr 1883 Everton, St. Chrysostom; Liverpool, Lancashire #8b/537
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Fred's birth:
YEOWART Frederick John b. Sept Qtr 1886 Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire #8b/216
It's possible he could have used his younger brother's DOB :-\
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Hi McG
I do not believe that he lost his legs in WW1. The NAA record shows that he was not in France at all and was returned to Australia and discharged through ill-health - gastric ulcer. He seems to have been a bit free and easy with the truth on occasions and it would not surprise me if he made up his age for the enlistment.
It seems there are at least two men with the same first and surnames - the Frederick John YEOWART b 1886 that Merlin has found died Jan-Feb-Mar 1973, aged 86
Death Registered Birkenhead; Vol 10a, p223
The Fred YEOWART found all over Australia dies in WA in 1954.
The Frederick YEOWART, aged 15, shown in 1901 census at 58 Wendell St, Toxteth Park, with parents Robert and Rosina, and sister Kathrena, has a middle initial "S". However, I cannot see the Frederick John on the 1901 census :-\
(I note that the NAA has another listing for a F YEOWART which is apparently pension files for WW1 - not digitised.)
Judith
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1881 census has the following family, entered by the enumerator as EWART (sic - quite clear on the image)
Robert Ewart 28
Rosanna S Ewart 27
Robt A Ewart 6
Fredk J Ewart 7
Katrina Ewart 3
Gertrude Ewart 1 4/12
The details - places of birth and occupations match those of the 1901 census (except for the enumerator's obvious mistakes!) so it is the same family, BUT here we have Fred's second initial as "J"
Address in 1891 is 82 Cedar Grove, Toxteth Park
1901 58 Wendell Street, Toxteth Park
So - where does this leave us? As Frederick John YEOWART died in England in 1973 the Australian man may have been using his name. He seems to have known the family well enough to know the sister's name and to have an address for her. (The Foxhill St address given is shown on Googlemap - whether it is the actual address of Katherine YEOWART is another matter!)
:-\ Judith
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(From his WW1 record) The pension file probably refers to Fred Yeowart's disbility pension he was granted on 23rd March 1918 with an address at Goodna, Queensland. The pension was for 3 pounds per fortnight.
Gerry
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At the top of the last page (17) of Fred Yeowart's WW1 record in red hand writing is a notation "died 1/12/54".
Regards
Gerry
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At the top of the last page (17) of Fred Yeowart's WW1 record in red hand writing is a notation "died 1/12/54".
Regards
Gerry
Gold Stars to Gerry !!!!