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Trying to find the above, parents of my great grandfather William Robert Pacey, born East Stoke, abt 1837. His Australian marriage cert gives those names but there are many Williams and I haven't been able to find Sarah Chester. If anyone can help I would be very grateful! William Jnr came to
Aust in 1849 & NZ in 1862 - I would love to know if he was alone or with his
family - (not a convict)
Thanks,
annejp
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Hi Anne
There is this marriage
William Pacey of East Stoke aged 21, bac, & Elizabeth Chester of Stapleford aged 21, spin married at Stapleford by licence 6.6. 1836.
Maybe Elizabeth was know by another name. It's a coincidence he was from East Stoke.
Carol
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Hi Anne,
Christening of William Pacey son of Richard & Elizabeth Pacey at East Stoke Church on 9 March 1837.
Nottsgirl1
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Hi, Sunflower & Nottsgirl,
Thanks for your replies. The marriage is a possibility, but I don't think the birth is as my gg father also called his first son William.
By any chance was there a second name on that marriage, as the death
certificate of ggf gave his fathers name as Gilbert and I wondered if he may have been Willam Gilbert. Ggf was called WR to differeniate him from his son
William. It gets very confusing, doesn't it!!!
Anne
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Hi Anne
Yes it does sound confusing. Did WR Pacey's parents go to Austrialia as well? I found a couple of burials that fit William & Elizabeth, but your message reads that they went as well.
There is no other name given on the marriage entry I found, but you could try sending for the marriage licence which may give more information.
The address is :
The University of Nottingham
King's Meadow Campus
Lenton Lane
Nottingham NG7 2NR
www.nottingham.ac.uk/is
0115 9514565
Carol
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Carol,
Don't know where you got the marriage details from but sorry to tell you you have the wrong date the licence was granted on 15 May 1832. Document Ref for the sending for licence is AN/MB/228/122.
Anne the marriage was on 16 May 1832 at Stapleford witnesses were Richard Gilbert and Anne Chester. I have a copy if you pm me your email I will send you a copy.
Nottsgirl1
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The only 1841 Census that seems to come close to being the Family;
1841 Census
St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
HO107/870/4/St Mary
William PACEY, 32, Lace Maker
Elizabeth, 30
James, 11
Eliza, 7
Robert, 4
WILLIAM, 2
All born in County
We need to be very careful here is there is a William Pacey/Pacy born c 1837, East Stoke, who is still in England and appears on the 1881 Census (also found him 1841 with Parents Richard/Elizabeth).
Trish :)
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Hi Nottsgirl
Thanks for that, I must start wearing my glasses more and stop squinting at the screen.
Cheers
Carol
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Hi Carol,
Its OK we make mastakes from time to time,
Trish, the 1881 census must be the one whose christening I found and posted above.
Christening of William Pacey son of Richard & Elizabeth Pacey at East Stoke Church on 9 March 1837.
Nottsgirl1
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Hi Anne,
Worked out that your Sarah Chester should be Elizabeth Chester married as above in 1832 to William Pacey. The Richard Gilbert who is witness on the marriage may be his uncle.
William Pacey was christened as William Pacy on 4 May 1811 East Stoke son of Thomas & Sarah Pacy.
Thomas Pacey (Pacy) & Sarah Gilbert were married 6 Jan 1810 by Licence East Stoke.
Sarah Gilbert was born 22 May 1789 christened 23 May 1789 daughter of William & Sarah Gilbert at East Stoke.
Other Children of William & Sarah Gilbert:
William born & Christened on 28 Dec 1786
Richard born & christened on 25 June 1791
John born & Christened 23 Jan 1793
Samuel born 23 Nov 1796 born 24 Nov 1796.
Thomas Pacey (Pacy) born & Christened 26 June 1780 son of William & Alice Pacy.
Still cannot find a christening for your original question of William Robert Pacey 1837.
Nottsgirl1
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Hi,
Thank you SO much! It is all starting to tie up. My grandfather was
named John Thomas, elder brother William.
I don't know who came to Australia with WR. He lived in Castlemaine,
Victoria, and there are a lot of Pacey's in that area. I haven't been able
to establish a connection to any of the other families.
Thank you again, I am very grateful!
I would put a smiley face on but haven't worked out how yet!
Anne
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from Phillimore
marriage East Stoke
William Pacy weaver aged 21 and Alice Wakefield aged 24. 20 May 1777.
The William Pacy bap. 1837 son of Richard and Elizabeth is my first cousin 5 times removed!! :o
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Hi Anne
It doesn't look like William went to Australia with his parents as it looks like they both died young
East Stoke Burials
William Pacey buried 20.11. 1838 aged 27 (fits with the baptism 4.5.1811)
Elizabeth Pacey buried 8.8. 1836 aged 28
So if this is the right family, where was William in 1841?
Carol
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Hi All,
I have sent this info to Anne by PM but posting here so you can all see it too.
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Thanks nottsgirl1 :)
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Hi Trish,
sorry was trying to copy and paste but this site wont let me do it as I have more info on the Pacey family but will have to post it later on today as I don't have time now.
Wendy
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Hi All,
Here's the info I was trying to put on earlier:
All at East Stoke
Marriage of William Pacy & Alice Wakefield 20 May 1777. William was a Weaver
children:
William born & christened 5 Jan 1778
Samuel 8 June 1779
Thomas 26 June 1780
Milicent 7 April 1782 married George Marshall Atkin 13 June 1805
Mary 24 Sept 1783
Samuel 17 Nov 1785
Burials:
11 June 1779 Samuel aged 1 day distemper Convulsion Fits. Second son of Wm a weaver & Alice.
28 Sept 1783 Mary aged 3 days Distemper convulsion fit. Second dau of Wm a weaver & Alice.
10 April 1787 Alice aged 32 years distemper died in childbed Wife of Wm a Weaver.
Second marriage:
William Pacy to Mary Hind 25 April 1887
Child: Lucy Born & Christened 11 March 1788.
Burials:
24 June 1788 Mary aged 34yrs Distemper Consumption Wife of William a Weaver & Alehouse Keeper.
1 Aug 1788 Lucy aged 4 months Distemper Consumption only dau of William by his second wife Mary.
Third Marriage
William Pacy and Sarah Priest 24 Aug 1788 at St Marys Church Nottingham
Child: John Born & Christened 12 Nov 1789 East Stoke.
Burial:
26 Sept 1790 William aged 34yrs Distemper Consumption a weaver and Aleshouse Keeper.
Got there only if could copy and paste on this site but wont let me anyone know how to??
Will be back when I find more.
Wendy ;D
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hi Everyone,
Going back to William Robert Pacey Anne has told me that she now thinks he was born 1834/35 according to his age on his marriage, so not found a christening for him and I went back to 1832 but found those
15 Feb 1835 Robert Gilbert Pacy son of William a Farmer and Elizabeth
20 April 1836 Anne Frances daughter of William and Elizabeth
I wonder if William change his name from Robert Gilbert to William Robert.
Can someone look those up on census please.
Wendy
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Hi Again,
The 1841 census that Trish posted is not the right family as that William married a Elizabeth Dickinson in 1830 at St Mary's.
Wendy
Well that's me done for now off for a rest.
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Hi Everyone,
I'ts taken me a day to digest all that! Three generations in two days,
I can hardly believe it! What a great site Rootschat is.
Thanks again,
Anne
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Hi Anne,
Marriage of William Pacy a widow of East Stoke and Sarah Priest St Mary's Church Nottingham by Licence. Witness and Bondsman William Brewing of Nottingham.
Nottsgirl1
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Thanks Nottsgirl1
Anne
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Hello again Anne
The date of the marriage licence was 23.8. 1788 and gives William's occupation as Victualler - ref AN/MB 184/ 143
I found a couple of documents that may interest you.
There is a Will of a Sarah Pacey widow of East Stoke dated 15 May 1810
(burial date 25.9. 1809 aged 63) I think this is the widow of William who died in 1790.
Another Will of a Thomas Pacey of East Stoke, Publican & Farmer, dated 4 Sept 1824.
These can be downloaded from the National Archives site
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/
Carol
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Thanks Carol,
I will get a copy of Thomas's.
It appears I am descended from a long line of publicans!! My grandfather's
two brothers had pubs in NZ. The elder, William (of course) was a gold miner, went to the Yukon, made his pile, came home, bought a pub and a year later was bankrupt. Didn't stop him though, he had several more over the years, in different parts of NZ & one in Fiji.
Cheers, Anne