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Before 2009, a WW1 Roll of Honour was attached to wall outside Goodfellows Supermarket in Sharp Street Hull. I understand it was removed for safe keeping during 2008/2009.
Does anybody know of its present whereabouts.
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Why was it attached to the wall of that supermarket? Was the supermarket originally a church, or was it damaged when a German airship dropped bombs on it?
Tom
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Why was it attached to the wall of that supermarket? Was the supermarket originally a church, or was it damaged when a German airship dropped bombs on it?
Tom
This particular Roll of Honour was typical of its sort, remembering those from the street on which the memorial was erected. I remember looking at it a few years ago, but have no idea of it's present whereabouts.
Bee
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Has it been recorded by a volunteer and placed on The National Inventory of War Memorials at The Imperial War Museum?
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According to that web site the roll of Honour has been re-erected inside the new store of Goodfellows-it's a wooden roll of Honour called Sharp Street Shrine.
However on reading further into this website, in 2007, the shop to which this memorial is attached ceased trading, and the building was put up for sale.
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Traders-unite-launch-Newland-Market/story-11973930-detail/story.html
It was then bought by three builders who opened the premises in 2009, as Newland Street Market, but this also seems to have fallen through, because I now see that there are now plans for the Erection of 15 terraced 2.5 storey houses, with 23 parking spaces at rear, by a company called Newland (Wyke) Molescroft Nursing Home (Holdings) Ltd, C/o Agent Mr Christopher Kendall, Hickling Gray Associates, 61 Langdale Road, Market Weighton ,York, YO43 3DG
So suggest that you contact that company above and see if they have any knowledge of the plaque, the local library, Hull City Council Archives, or maybe the above newspaper site-they may have an angle on your story.
Tom
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Thankyou for your replies.
I have just been up to Hull, and the Memorial is still attached to the outside wall of ex.Goodfellows super-market. It is still in very good condition, and protected within a plastic casing.
I have an interest in this memorial. as it was carved by my Grand-father during 1919. I understand that there is an agreement somewhere, that this must remain in its original position in Sharp Street, Hull.
Nick Robinson,
Colchester
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The memorial was 'resued' by www.heroesofhull.co.uk (http://www.heroesofhull.co.uk) about three years ago when there was a perceved threat. The threat was not real but the outcome was that the memorial cannot be removed without the consult of the Hull Planning Dept. and only then on condition that it is replaced following any redevelopment work on the site. HeroesofHull also arranged that it become 'listed' and two optional safe places where it would be stored (remaining on public display) during temporary removal.
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Good to know that it's future has been safeguarded.
I suppose it's too much to expect that someone has a complete list of all the names on the memorial or that there is an online list that I haven't found. I did look at it years ago before I really got into family history.
Bee
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This organisation say they have the list of of names
http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.35505/fromUkniwmSearch/1
The names would have been submitted by a volunteer who surveyed the memorial for the National Inventory of War Memorials. In many cases the volunteers come from local family history groups,-there is such a group in East Yorkshire.
http://www.eyfhs.org.uk/
Have you tried the public library in Hull to see if they have such a list? They have a good family history section-if they don't have list they may know someone who does.
Tom
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So interesting to read of the continuing interest in the Roll of Honour, and the UKniwm record.
However, the craftsman was James William Robinson,( 1876-1924) a Journeyman carver and cabinet maker who lived at 112 Sharp Street, Hull.
I,m not certain if those named on the memorial were Sharp Street residents, or perhaps from surrounding streets.
Nick Robinson.
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Well as you can see from the memorial, only 10 of those named died, and their details will be on the Commonwealth War Graves Site, so if you can find the actual names, their parents names and home addresses will be on that website:
http://www.cwgc.org/
The other 129 names, are those that served, but survived, and their details may be on the Absent Voters list 1919 for Hull
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=162489
Tom
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Thanks, Tom.
When I looked at it long time ago I didn't know how many of our extended family came from that area.
I'll pay it a visit in the new year to see if I recognize any names.
happy christmas
Bee
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I drove past this the other day, it looked as though Goodfellows had been demolished?
K
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Goodfellows has gone and there are to be houses built on the site. The memorial is in storage somewhere I believe and is to be reinstated when a suitable location is available. My mother-in-law lives down Sharp Street and had a letter about it a while ago. If I find out any more I will let you know on here.
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Thanks for the info. Would appreciate any news as and when you hear.
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Hi...I asked at the Carnegie Heritage Centre today and it is currently in storage at The Guildhall awaiting a decision on a possible siting.
I have sent you a P.M.
Carol
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Hi All,
As of a few months ago the WW1 Roll of honour was been held in the old Newland Primary school which is now a council drop in centre.It is upstairs.A few months ago I went to see it to take some photos of it and to find out why it had been taken down and was it going to be put back up.
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This is my first posting on this site and I have registered after reading the entries with great interest, as I was born (1935) and lived at 122 Sharp Street prior to moving to Canada in 1964 (Just 5 houses away from 112 where the Robinsons lived.) At that time Joe Robinson lived there and he was the local barber.
I can report that, prior to and after WW2, the roll of honour was on the outside wall of Beals Joinery which was a large carpentry firm owned by Roland Beal who lived in the last house at the bottom of Sharp Street across from the Warrington family who where the local milk producers and delivery family in the area.
I am pleased to hear that the memorial is in safe hands at the Wyke office in the Newland Avenue school (which I attended as a child) and I hope to be able to see it when I visit my family in September. George Barrett.
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Joe Robinson was my Uncle, and died in January 1987 - Gladys, his wife, died two day before him.
I spent many hours in his barbers shop on our many visits Hull. When studying for my maritime certificates at Trinity House, Hull, I lodged with them, and so became quite familiar with Sharp Street and its surrounds.
My interest in the WW1 Roll of Honour is for two reasons, the first that my Grandfather undertook the carving on the memorial, and second that its existance was in danger. My Mother wrote to Hull City Council on several occassions regarding this matter, explaining her concerns for its future, but without any success. However, the good folk within the East Yorkshire Family History Society became involved, and thanks to them, its future now seems secure'
Nick Robinson
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Hi Nick. Thanks for your reply and the info on your uncle Joe and Aunt Gladys, I have fond memories of them both especially during the war years, all of the neighbours were very nice and we all stuck together during those bad times. The street was not cluttered with cars in those days mostly horse and carts making deliveries. Moore's the coal merchant at #121, George Myers the green grocer at 116. Jim Warrington the milkman all had horse and cart. My parents Walter and Nancy lived at#122 from 1934 until 1972 when my dad retired and they moved to Bridlington. I am keeping my two lifelong Sharp Street friends Ron Green(from #79) here in Canada, and Dennis Peck (#65or67 ?) in Australia, up to date with this site as they do not have email. I can answer any questions that you may have but unfortunately I cannot figure out how to send a personal email address to you on this site.
George Barrett.
Niagara Falls. Canada.
Hello to any other old Sharp Street residents who may read the messages on this site.
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Hi George and welcome to Rootschat...when you have posted 3 messages on here you can send a PM ( Private Message) by clicking on the scroll underneath Nick's name.
Carol
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Thanks George. I will send you a private email
Nick Robinson
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Thank you Carol I will do that.
George.
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This is my first post on the site. I worked a paper round down Newland Avenue (including Sharp Street) back in the 1960s. I was at the Marist College. Left Hull in 1974 and came back in 2005. Last year I fulfilled a dream - I wrote a book called Sharp Street! See: www.sharpstreetww1.org We have adapted the poems, added songs from Oh What a Lovely War and performed at Trinity Methodist Church on Newland Avenue last November. We are repeating this on Newland Avenue, 08/11/13; at Holy Trinity 11/11/13 and several other places. Next year we are going to Oppy Wood to commemorate the Hull Pals who lost their lives. Do come along if you can! Regards, Rob Bell
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For those interested..here is a list of names included in the Sharp Street Roll of Honor.
Carol
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Carol
Many thanks, that's very useful
Bee
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My pleasure Bee.
Hopefully if people google the Memorial it will bring them here where they can see the list of names.
Carol
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Before 2009, a WW1 Roll of Honour was attached to wall outside Goodfellows Supermarket in Sharp Street Hull. I understand it was removed for safe keeping during 2008/2009.
Does anybody know of its present whereabouts.
::) The Sharpe Street (original spelling) memorial was 'scheduled' when the Goodfellows building was sold to Sainsbury's and the latter decided not to develop the site, but sell it. The site was due for demolition and I, (Alan Brigham, as the editor of the East Yorkshire Family History Society journal the 'Banyan Tree'), was alerted of the potential threat to the memorial by a descendant of the carver. Together with the City Planning Department and Sainsbury's Properties Manager; the memorial was protected and a clause added to the lease of the Sainsbury's site which required that, following any development work on the site, the memorial be reinstated post development at, or as close as possible to, its current position. It was also written into the record that the memorial should be stored in such a way that it remained visible to the public at the Carnegie Heritage Centre (Anlaby Road), the local Primary School or the local Community Centre - the Carnegie being the third-choice option.
Since then the Sharp Street Memorial has been ...
".. stored in Hull City Council's Wyke area office in Newland Avenue, which is facing an uncertain future after the authority announced plans to sell the building.
But Wyke area committee chairman Councillor John Fareham said the memorial was still available for public viewing on request.
Speaking at a full council meeting, he said it was hoped to return the memorial to Sharp Street as a condition of planning approval for new housing on the site[/i]." Hull Daily Mail 22 Mar 2013.
For the full story visit: http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Sharp-Street-World-War-memorial-safe-hands/story-18491166-detail/story.html (http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Sharp-Street-World-War-memorial-safe-hands/story-18491166-detail/story.html)
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Thank you so much for the update.
I,m so grateful for the continuing interest in safeguarding the future of this memorial.
Hopefully it will eventually be installed in its rightful home, Sharp street.
Happy new year to you all.
Nick Robinson,
Colchester
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Today... this Roll of Honour was returned to its rightful place in a re-dedication ceremony....it's been a long time coming. Our local men who sacrificed so much can now be remembered with pride.
Carol
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See the local news report here
http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-03-17/great-war-heroes-remembered-on-hull-street/
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Many thanks must go to those who have made this possible, now I must make the effort to go and take a photo of the memorial whilst it is still in pristine condition.
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Can I add my sincere thanks to all those that have worked so hard to preserve this memorial. I only wish that my late mother (Pam Robinson) was here today to see it so well restored and sited in its rightful place, Sharp Street. She was so worried for its future.
Well done Hull
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I know how much this means to you Nick so I am thrilled for you and all those whose Families are represented on this Roll of Honour. Long may it remain 8)
Carol