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Title: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: davidwintersmith on Tuesday 11 October 11 17:04 BST (UK)
There is a work called "The Golden Falcon" in Freepages on Ancestry.com.

Many of my Winter line are in the work.

There are references to 'Figs' in the work. As an example, in Chapter XVI/2 - Swallow there is a reference to Fig. 152. I have searched the work and cannot find Fig. 152. I assume this Fig. contains a chart of the people referenced in this Chapter.

see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pillagoda/ch16-02.htm

This would be of great value in my researched. How can I view the Fig(s)

DAvid
Title: The Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: davidwintersmith on Wednesday 12 October 11 08:27 BST (UK)
In freepages at Ancestry.com there is an e-book called The Golden Falcon.

In this book there are references to Figs e.g. Fig. 152 - Winter of Tannadice & Cortachy & Clova, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

I assume this fig to be a family tree for people referenced in this chapter.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pillagoda/ch16-02.htm

Does anyone know where I can find the Fig(s)?

DAvid
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: pinefamily on Wednesday 12 October 11 08:28 BST (UK)
Hello David,
Having simply googled "The Golden Falcon", I came up with the freepages site you mention. When I clicked on it, I came up with a contents, at the end of which was a link for Winter family genealogy. That seems to be fairly detailed. Or is that not what you are after?

Darren
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: davidwintersmith on Wednesday 12 October 11 08:34 BST (UK)
Darren, many thanks for the speedy response.

This section does not contain the Figs referenced and I have searched for Cortachy and Hunchar v John Winter to no avail.

I am expecting to find a family tree charting the generations without all the comments in the section.

Best regards

DAvid
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: davidrigg3 on Wednesday 12 October 11 12:18 BST (UK)
Have you tried emailing the author Wendy at the address shown?
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: davidwintersmith on Wednesday 12 October 11 12:26 BST (UK)
Yes, she died in 2005 and no other contact details available. Pillagoda search (where the research started) provides no cluse either.

Regards

DAvid
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: Alferg on Thursday 13 December 12 15:48 GMT (UK)
David

Re Winters at Cortachy Hunchar etc, I too would like to find the "figs"
I have only just by chance discovered The Golden Falcon and found references and names linked to my wifes family tree.
Can you contact me at (*)please?

Alistair

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Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: GrahamSimons on Thursday 13 December 12 22:27 GMT (UK)
There is a family history of the Winter family donated by Wendy F de Garcia at the Society of Genealogists. Here is the catalogue entry:

Author:         Winter, Wendy F de Garcia
Title Statement:         Winter family history [Floppy disk (3½").]
Published:         Nd.
Description:         5 disks
Subject:         FAMILY HISTORY
Subject:         Winter (surname)
Funding Info. Note:         D: W F de G Winter
Call Number:         Store A
Location:         Apply to library staff
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: davidwintersmith on Friday 14 December 12 11:56 GMT (UK)
Graham, this is wonderful news. The figs I believe may contain data to resolve me nemesis!

I am in touch now with the society.

Thanks again.

DAvid
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: elricks on Thursday 13 October 16 01:03 BST (UK)
I am researching the WINTER family in Norfolk and Suffolk.  I found the Golden Falcon recently, and I am working my way through the web page (without the Figs), comparing it with my existing data on some of the people, and with the on line access to databases that I have.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pillagoda/

Whilst the data has some major differences to original sources (which would not have been available to whoever authored the original source of the data in the Golden Falcon), it has given me some great 'leads'.

I have a web site (www.shirley-elrick.com) with details of many WINTER people, but as the Bungay ones have yet to be linked into my blood line interests, I doubt my findings will get published. 

If anyone wants any info regarding my research into the Golden Falcon research, post here and I will reply

SHIRLEY
Title: Re: THe Golden Falcon & Figs
Post by: elricks on Tuesday 25 October 16 09:44 BST (UK)
I can add to the above.

Norwich Mercury 18 October 1905 has 2 chess problems written by E BAIRD and E WINTER-WOOD, who are said to both be descendants of Sir William WINTER the admiral.

I checked and found that these 2 people are actually only 1 person, but writing under 2 different names.

She  was Edith E H BAIRD, a widow, who died aged 63 in 1924 in Devon. She was born in Boalouge (?).  She noted in the 1911 census that she had been married for 5 years and had one child. I believe that these 5 years were the length of the marriage (ie between marriage and the death of her huisband).  She said she had had 1 child, but there is no statement as to if that child is alive or dead.

I have not found the marriage, nor where the penname came from, but the 1911 census has Edith in the same house as Robert and Olive WINTER, who had a 2 year old son Walter.  Every one in the house were boarders. 

If there is anyone who wants to confirm or deny the descent from the Admiral, It should be possible to reconstruct the family of Robert, a master mariner, who was born in 1847 in St John New Brunswick., which is in Canada.

SHIRLEY