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Title: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: tigger_lass on Monday 10 October 11 22:42 BST (UK)
Hi

Can anyone help decipher this placename from the 1851 census? I know its in Linlithgowshire but cant for the life of me make out the place.

Regards

Tracey

I cant seem to attach the file...will keep trying!
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 10 October 11 22:44 BST (UK)
Can we have the details please??
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: tigger_lass on Monday 10 October 11 22:56 BST (UK)
grrrrr still not working. I keep getting a message saying the upload folder is full....help?

Tracey
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 10 October 11 23:03 BST (UK)
You'll need to report it as Admin has to do something .

I'll PM you my e-mail and you could send it to me and I'll try to Imageshack it to get around the problem temporarily.

gnu
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: tigger_lass on Monday 10 October 11 23:11 BST (UK)
Thanks gnu....have emailed you :)

Tracey
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 10 October 11 23:13 BST (UK)
Here's the image  :)

    (http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8204/1851elizayoungdetail3.jpg)
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: tigger_lass on Monday 10 October 11 23:17 BST (UK)
Thank you!!!!

Freecen has the placename transcribed as Friforne.....

Tracey
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 10 October 11 23:29 BST (UK)
It's a tricky one, Tracey  :-\

I'm now looking at maps but can't see anything at the moment. Can you send me the page so that I can have a look at more of the writing, please.

Have you got the family on other censuses?

gnu
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Pels. on Monday 10 October 11 23:47 BST (UK)




A long shot - but could it be a mispronunciation of Torphichen :

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/WLN/Torphichen/

I'm sure Gnu will keep me right !  ;D

Pels.
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 11 October 11 17:51 BST (UK)
Hi Tracey

From the full page, the best that  I can work out at the moment is that the first letter is an F (cf the F in Thomas Fee, previous household). So, all I can find in WL at the moment are ~

Falside (near Bathgate)
Fauldhouse
Foulshiels

There may be more when I return to perusing the maps!

It could be that the Lanarkshire enumerator couldn't understand the writing on the household schedule!

I've found a possible baptism for Elizabeth b.c. 1838 :
3 April 1837, Shotts, LKS.  Parents: Andrew Young and Elizabeth Black.

Would this be them?


gnu



OK, Pels, Get looking again  ;D
 
PS - it might be a long S, which looks like an f but can't find any on the page to compare.
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 11 October 11 17:56 BST (UK)
However, if it is Elizabeth Black, then Pels wins a prize:

Baptism - Torphichen 5 Nov 1797 (IGI)

Elizabeth Black. Parents - Peter Black and Mary Paul


 :D

gnu
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: mosschops2 on Tuesday 11 October 11 18:17 BST (UK)
I believe it looks like Linlithgow.
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: mosschops2 on Tuesday 11 October 11 18:19 BST (UK)
OOh silly me!
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: tigger_lass on Tuesday 11 October 11 19:23 BST (UK)
Thanks gnu!

Elizabeth's maiden name was Black. Her husband was James Young and she died 1854 in Omoa, Cleland.

Tracey
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 11 October 11 19:24 BST (UK)
That's the one then, Tracey.

They must have written it Forficane or some such - Pels gets the award, I think  :D

gnu
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Pels. on Tuesday 11 October 11 19:27 BST (UK)
However, if it is Elizabeth Black, then Pels wins a prize:

Baptism - Torphichen 5 Nov 1797 (IGI)

Elizabeth Black. Parents - Peter Black and Mary Paul


 :D

gnu

Thanks gnu!

Elizabeth's maiden name was Black. Her husband was James Young and she died 1854 in Omoa, Cleland.

Tracey

That's the one then, Tracey.

They must have written it Forficane or some such - Pels gets the award, I think  :D

gnu

Lost for words !  :-X :-X

Thankyou, thankyou, I thank you !  :D :D

Pels.
Title: Re: Help to decipher placename?
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 11 October 11 19:30 BST (UK)
I think she wants me to bring out this  ::)

(http://www.appleandgrape.org/images/design_elements/clapping_audience.gif)